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So Is The Dex Based Fighter Just Strictly Better?
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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8680947" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Except it doesn't. It does as much damage as the best one handed strength based weapon <em>assuming no feat support</em>. And a fighter gets that extra feat at level 6.</p><p></p><p>The best one handed strength based weapon is, oddly enough, the spear. <em>Polearm Master</em> gets you an extra attack with your bonus action while still allowing you to both use a shield and dueling style. And it's ahead in terms of both AC and damage of the dex based equivalent of two weapon fighting plus the dual wielder feat even before you count the interrupt attack.</p><p></p><p>The thing is how much this matters depends a lot on the subclass. For a paladin with almost no bonus actions the extra attack(s) are <em>well</em> worth a point of Str bonus. By contrast for a Rune Knight with bonus actions to second wind, grow to giant size and get a damage bonus, and get resistance against all physical damage (hill rune) a longsword or dex based rapier might end up doing more dpr. And although a greatweapon rune knight might do more damage without any accuracy buff greatweapon master isn't that good. So the gap is small here.</p><p></p><p>Agreed. The rapier is slightly overtuned - or (and possibly more accurately) the longsword and equivalent axe and hammer are slightly undertuned caused by versatile being not that great.</p><p></p><p>... and why was this thread resurrected?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8680947, member: 87792"] Except it doesn't. It does as much damage as the best one handed strength based weapon [I]assuming no feat support[/I]. And a fighter gets that extra feat at level 6. The best one handed strength based weapon is, oddly enough, the spear. [I]Polearm Master[/I] gets you an extra attack with your bonus action while still allowing you to both use a shield and dueling style. And it's ahead in terms of both AC and damage of the dex based equivalent of two weapon fighting plus the dual wielder feat even before you count the interrupt attack. The thing is how much this matters depends a lot on the subclass. For a paladin with almost no bonus actions the extra attack(s) are [I]well[/I] worth a point of Str bonus. By contrast for a Rune Knight with bonus actions to second wind, grow to giant size and get a damage bonus, and get resistance against all physical damage (hill rune) a longsword or dex based rapier might end up doing more dpr. And although a greatweapon rune knight might do more damage without any accuracy buff greatweapon master isn't that good. So the gap is small here. Agreed. The rapier is slightly overtuned - or (and possibly more accurately) the longsword and equivalent axe and hammer are slightly undertuned caused by versatile being not that great. ... and why was this thread resurrected? [/QUOTE]
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