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<blockquote data-quote="ShockMeSane" data-source="post: 4252488" data-attributes="member: 64606">Having run some simulated combats, let me assure you that Ancient Red Dragons need that many hps, lest they be slain in one round by a group of heroes with action points handy.Said Dragon can and will use his breath weapon and Immolate Foe on its first round of combat. This is around 100 damage considering the ongoing fire damage and the fact that any Fire Resistance you may have possesed is gone, roughly half a fighter's hps, in addition to whatever collateral damage gets dealt to your allies from the breath.A level 30 character can easily do 150 damage in a round without a crit if they use their action point and manage a double-hit. Honestly I would expect a 5 PC group with one of the power-buffs of a Warlord or Cleric to probably deal about 200-250 damage a round to the Dragon after the action-point round, taking into account crits and misses (a single crit is in the neighborhood of 150 at this point).I imagine it would actually be a relatively intense battle, around 5-7 rounds in length depending on luck. Obviously if the players roll a string of low results on their best dailies and action points it might draw out, just as if they roll a couple crits on the first few power attacks it'd be lights out faster.Pacing seems on track to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ShockMeSane, post: 4252488, member: 64606"] Having run some simulated combats, let me assure you that Ancient Red Dragons need that many hps, lest they be slain in one round by a group of heroes with action points handy. Said Dragon can and will use his breath weapon and Immolate Foe on its first round of combat. This is around 100 damage considering the ongoing fire damage and the fact that any Fire Resistance you may have possesed is gone, roughly half a fighter's hps, in addition to whatever collateral damage gets dealt to your allies from the breath. A level 30 character can easily do 150 damage in a round without a crit if they use their action point and manage a double-hit. Honestly I would expect a 5 PC group with one of the power-buffs of a Warlord or Cleric to probably deal about 200-250 damage a round to the Dragon after the action-point round, taking into account crits and misses (a single crit is in the neighborhood of 150 at this point). I imagine it would actually be a relatively intense battle, around 5-7 rounds in length depending on luck. Obviously if the players roll a string of low results on their best dailies and action points it might draw out, just as if they roll a couple crits on the first few power attacks it'd be lights out faster. Pacing seems on track to me. [/QUOTE]

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