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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Prism" data-source="post: 6342608" data-attributes="member: 9501">I don't really need a table to describe it. Both PCs have exactly the same stats. At 4th level PC1 adds +2 to CON and PC2 takes toughness. For the rest of their progression they take identical feats or stat gains. The only difference is that PC1 gets a slightly better CON save and PC2 gets 1 extra hp per level compared to PC1 .I rate the importance of the CON save higher than you seem to. Maybe that's because our big fights are often against enemy casters who love to take out the opposing party wizard. I can also see the advantage of a few extra hp although also rarely find that to be the deciding factor for a wizard. I rate these things about equal so I'm pretty happy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As I have said, I would probably ignore both until I was happy with INT and AC (via DEX or armour)</blockquote>