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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blackwarder" data-source="post: 5936614" data-attributes="member: 6688285">I see your point Pemerton but I don't fully agree with it. Oh I fully agree with the idea that the game should have a mechanical component for task resolutions outside of combat, as I've said earlier if 90% of the PHB focus on combat that the entire game will focuse on combat.My main problem with the skill challenge mechanic (and be advised I only have the DMG1 to work with in that) is that on the one hand it's too restrictive and on the other it's too open and if the DM and players never encountered it before it becomes one big cluster <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />..I want the two other pillars to be detailed with enough crunch throw in that the players will feel its worthwhile to spend character resources on them, for example having a more robust reaction system than a Diplomacy check like in 2e or having more robust and varied invaroments with different pros and cons to going through them, more robust tracking rules and more robust negotiating rules, I know players that given the chance will build their character to be this guy who can talk himself outside of tight places but given the fact that there aren't any rules for that they don't spend character resources on it and end up killing things because that's what their character sheet got in it.Warder</blockquote>

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