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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 5468102" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>Also, I believe Erik Mona made a post on Circvs Maximvs that said (assuming no misunderstandings) that the majority of their revenue still comes in, not from the RPG, but from the paid Adventure Path subscriptions. So it's not like "Pathfinder the RPG" is beating out "D&D the RPG," necessarily.</p><p></p><p>However, Pathfinder has something right now that D&D has lost, in my opinion: an energized grass roots fanbase. There is a definitely electricity when talking to Pathfinder fans that I'm not seeing with the 4E fans much lately, and I think it's because Essentials has slowed the momentum more than WotC would have liked. Nice products, but they're doing nothing for me and (from what I can tell) nor a LOT of the 4E fans - and the Heroes of Shadow, Heroes of Feywild, and Gardmore Abbey stuff that is left after the book cancellations is not sparking my interest - just not "sexy" enough, to recall a phrase.</p><p></p><p>However, Pathfinder, with it's Map pack, Ultimate magic, Ultimate Combat, that are coming later this year, are definitely catching my interest and causing a hell of a lot of buzz MONTHS before they're released. WotC's just playing it so close to the vest that I can't even tell WHY I would want something, clear even into its release date, because I really have no interest in buying it due to a halfway enthused blurb on how cool it is. What's Paizo doing, by contrast? They took a note from WotC - they release playtests, they invite fan feedback, they chat up what's going to be in a product and why it'll be awesome, they pique my interest three months before the product is released.</p><p></p><p>WotC USED to do this, with the PH2 and PH3 playtests in DDI, with the Revenant race, with the interviews with people like Jeff Greiner from The Tome, Mearls used to talk up the new products six months before release, etc. Now, when something is released, I have no desire to seek it out, find it, skim it, try to figure out what's cool.</p><p></p><p>Now, with all this said? Is WotC "dumbing themselves down?" No, that would be silly. But are they making product that's turning off me and a lot of fans like me with the board games, abundance of Essentials to the expense of other supplments? Absolutely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 5468102, member: 158"] Also, I believe Erik Mona made a post on Circvs Maximvs that said (assuming no misunderstandings) that the majority of their revenue still comes in, not from the RPG, but from the paid Adventure Path subscriptions. So it's not like "Pathfinder the RPG" is beating out "D&D the RPG," necessarily. However, Pathfinder has something right now that D&D has lost, in my opinion: an energized grass roots fanbase. There is a definitely electricity when talking to Pathfinder fans that I'm not seeing with the 4E fans much lately, and I think it's because Essentials has slowed the momentum more than WotC would have liked. Nice products, but they're doing nothing for me and (from what I can tell) nor a LOT of the 4E fans - and the Heroes of Shadow, Heroes of Feywild, and Gardmore Abbey stuff that is left after the book cancellations is not sparking my interest - just not "sexy" enough, to recall a phrase. However, Pathfinder, with it's Map pack, Ultimate magic, Ultimate Combat, that are coming later this year, are definitely catching my interest and causing a hell of a lot of buzz MONTHS before they're released. WotC's just playing it so close to the vest that I can't even tell WHY I would want something, clear even into its release date, because I really have no interest in buying it due to a halfway enthused blurb on how cool it is. What's Paizo doing, by contrast? They took a note from WotC - they release playtests, they invite fan feedback, they chat up what's going to be in a product and why it'll be awesome, they pique my interest three months before the product is released. WotC USED to do this, with the PH2 and PH3 playtests in DDI, with the Revenant race, with the interviews with people like Jeff Greiner from The Tome, Mearls used to talk up the new products six months before release, etc. Now, when something is released, I have no desire to seek it out, find it, skim it, try to figure out what's cool. Now, with all this said? Is WotC "dumbing themselves down?" No, that would be silly. But are they making product that's turning off me and a lot of fans like me with the board games, abundance of Essentials to the expense of other supplments? Absolutely. [/QUOTE]
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