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<blockquote data-quote="Destil" data-source="post: 4989175" data-attributes="member: 1980"><p>There's enough good at-wills these days that a human Paladin is a good choice. Especially if you're charisma focused, since you may want Virtuous Strike over Melee Training. Half-elves make good paladins, though, and they have a really great paladin racial feat for a -3 mark.</p><p></p><p>The big downside of playing a Cha Paladin is your defenses aside from AC and will are going to suck. Bad. Since both your primary and secondary stat pump will... Another plus for the human.</p><p></p><p>Dilettante you have all kinds of choices these days depending on your build (though the horrid implement rules are a bit of a sticking point if your DM plays strictly by the book), and pretty much every half elf at least looks at taking Versatile Master at 11th. There's a <strong>huge</strong> number of options here, I started listing them but instead I'll just toss out some ideas:</p><p></p><p>Radiant Vengeance - Maintain mark at a distance, no implement issues, grants temp HP. You could have a viable semi-ranged build with just this power up your sleeve.</p><p>Pressing Strike - You most likely won't be playing a Str half elf, but it could work. Lots of mobility here.</p><p>Astral Seal - Another ranged option, this one with a nice healing/debuff aspect.</p><p>Mantel of the Infidel - Excellent ranged lock-down potential if you go Wis/Cha. Has implement issues...</p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as feats Honored Foe is fantastic if you have good Wis and work to make monsters not ignore your mark. Persistent Challenge is a real winner if you get stunned for a round or something (not having a mark for two rounds sucks). Finally Contagious Challenge is a winner when you're the only defender in a group (remember, you can have 4 paragon feats at 12th by retraining heroic ones).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Destil, post: 4989175, member: 1980"] There's enough good at-wills these days that a human Paladin is a good choice. Especially if you're charisma focused, since you may want Virtuous Strike over Melee Training. Half-elves make good paladins, though, and they have a really great paladin racial feat for a -3 mark. The big downside of playing a Cha Paladin is your defenses aside from AC and will are going to suck. Bad. Since both your primary and secondary stat pump will... Another plus for the human. Dilettante you have all kinds of choices these days depending on your build (though the horrid implement rules are a bit of a sticking point if your DM plays strictly by the book), and pretty much every half elf at least looks at taking Versatile Master at 11th. There's a [b]huge[/b] number of options here, I started listing them but instead I'll just toss out some ideas: Radiant Vengeance - Maintain mark at a distance, no implement issues, grants temp HP. You could have a viable semi-ranged build with just this power up your sleeve. Pressing Strike - You most likely won't be playing a Str half elf, but it could work. Lots of mobility here. Astral Seal - Another ranged option, this one with a nice healing/debuff aspect. Mantel of the Infidel - Excellent ranged lock-down potential if you go Wis/Cha. Has implement issues... As far as feats Honored Foe is fantastic if you have good Wis and work to make monsters not ignore your mark. Persistent Challenge is a real winner if you get stunned for a round or something (not having a mark for two rounds sucks). Finally Contagious Challenge is a winner when you're the only defender in a group (remember, you can have 4 paragon feats at 12th by retraining heroic ones). [/QUOTE]
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