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<blockquote data-quote="pukunui" data-source="post: 9550665" data-attributes="member: 54629"><p>No worries. In addition to the jarring "familiar but different" thing, I also just don't like the aesthetics of the new designs. It's purely subjective, I won't argue that point. Things I don't like in no particular order:</p><p></p><p>*White faces on black dragons</p><p>*The green dragon's cobra head</p><p>*All the underbites</p><p>*All the extra spiky bits</p><p>*The white dragon looking more like a snow lion than a dragon</p><p>*The copper dragon's ridiculously long, thin neck</p><p>*The bronze dragon's butterfly patterned wings</p><p>*All the ankylosaurus / stegosaurus tails</p><p>*How some dragons have been made chonkier while others seem overly stretched out</p><p></p><p>I also feel like the WotC designers still can't quite figure out the blue dragon's niche. It seems like they're steering it more towards being a "storm" dragon rather than a "desert" dragon. The older design never really made sense for its environment (shouldn't the underside of the wings be blue and the tops be sandy colored instead of the other way around?). I think it makes more sense as a "storm" dragon, but then you're left without a chromatic dragon dwelling in arid environments.</p><p></p><p>I'd also like to add that I've not been a big fan of D&D's color coding of dragons for some time. I'd much prefer more environmental / habitat-themed dragons. Perhaps reds could be fire dragons or volcano dragons. Blues could be storm or tempest dragons. Blacks could be swamp dragons. Or you could have ravagers, longhorns, ridgebacks, spiketails, etc. Think more like Dragon Age or Harry Potter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pukunui, post: 9550665, member: 54629"] No worries. In addition to the jarring "familiar but different" thing, I also just don't like the aesthetics of the new designs. It's purely subjective, I won't argue that point. Things I don't like in no particular order: *White faces on black dragons *The green dragon's cobra head *All the underbites *All the extra spiky bits *The white dragon looking more like a snow lion than a dragon *The copper dragon's ridiculously long, thin neck *The bronze dragon's butterfly patterned wings *All the ankylosaurus / stegosaurus tails *How some dragons have been made chonkier while others seem overly stretched out I also feel like the WotC designers still can't quite figure out the blue dragon's niche. It seems like they're steering it more towards being a "storm" dragon rather than a "desert" dragon. The older design never really made sense for its environment (shouldn't the underside of the wings be blue and the tops be sandy colored instead of the other way around?). I think it makes more sense as a "storm" dragon, but then you're left without a chromatic dragon dwelling in arid environments. I'd also like to add that I've not been a big fan of D&D's color coding of dragons for some time. I'd much prefer more environmental / habitat-themed dragons. Perhaps reds could be fire dragons or volcano dragons. Blues could be storm or tempest dragons. Blacks could be swamp dragons. Or you could have ravagers, longhorns, ridgebacks, spiketails, etc. Think more like Dragon Age or Harry Potter. [/QUOTE]
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