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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 9550705" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>Thanks for the additional feedback. Here are some of my thoughts</p><p></p><p>I agree with you there, but I like the overall head shape compared to the 3e black. I really disliked the 3e mouth. Not a fan of the white-washing either, but I like the shape and dentation better so it is a net win for me (and I can ignore the white or make it black in photoshop!)</p><p></p><p>I actually like this, and the whole green design, but no need for me to go into that here.</p><p></p><p>I agreed. I don't like that look for my dragons. Fine for some, but prefer to not to be the standard. However, from the art posted, it looks like only the reference designs are heavy on the underbite. Look at Tiamat below, only the green has an underbite. I noticed at least the red and blue (maybe more) in the MM don't have the underbite. So the underbite seems to be an artist stylistic choice, not a definitive trait (thankfully)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]391783[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I used to feel the same way, but then a read the book Dragonsbane (by barbara hambly) and she went into detail about why dragons have a profusion of spike bits and why they are located where the are that I got won over somewhat. I definitely like some, but I don't have to have them one way or the other. Though I say the 3e design were pretty spikey so I don't feel at first glance the the new ones are more spikey. The blue is definitely more sleek than the 3e version.</p><p></p><p>Not sure about this one. I have seen some images that give that impression and some that do not.</p><p></p><p>Agreed, that is the one new dragon that I find disappointing compared to previous designs.</p><p></p><p>I can take it or leave it. To be honest I care less about the metallics!</p><p></p><p>How many have this? I can only think of the white (which fits my idea for the theme of the white), are there other ones? The red, blue and green don't have it. The black has the tail spike since 3e. Maybe it is in the metallics? Again, I pay less attention to them.</p><p></p><p>I am for that in general, but I don't think the execution has always quite hit the mark. I like the greater variety in body types.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 9550705, member: 83242"] Thanks for the additional feedback. Here are some of my thoughts I agree with you there, but I like the overall head shape compared to the 3e black. I really disliked the 3e mouth. Not a fan of the white-washing either, but I like the shape and dentation better so it is a net win for me (and I can ignore the white or make it black in photoshop!) I actually like this, and the whole green design, but no need for me to go into that here. I agreed. I don't like that look for my dragons. Fine for some, but prefer to not to be the standard. However, from the art posted, it looks like only the reference designs are heavy on the underbite. Look at Tiamat below, only the green has an underbite. I noticed at least the red and blue (maybe more) in the MM don't have the underbite. So the underbite seems to be an artist stylistic choice, not a definitive trait (thankfully) [ATTACH type="full" alt="Player's Handbook 2024 - Tiamat.jpg's Handbook 2024 - Tiamat.jpg"]391783[/ATTACH] I used to feel the same way, but then a read the book Dragonsbane (by barbara hambly) and she went into detail about why dragons have a profusion of spike bits and why they are located where the are that I got won over somewhat. I definitely like some, but I don't have to have them one way or the other. Though I say the 3e design were pretty spikey so I don't feel at first glance the the new ones are more spikey. The blue is definitely more sleek than the 3e version. Not sure about this one. I have seen some images that give that impression and some that do not. Agreed, that is the one new dragon that I find disappointing compared to previous designs. I can take it or leave it. To be honest I care less about the metallics! How many have this? I can only think of the white (which fits my idea for the theme of the white), are there other ones? The red, blue and green don't have it. The black has the tail spike since 3e. Maybe it is in the metallics? Again, I pay less attention to them. I am for that in general, but I don't think the execution has always quite hit the mark. I like the greater variety in body types. [/QUOTE]
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