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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 6628969" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Unpon reflection, yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you here. Good point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, for the simple reason that "Multiattack" is <em>a single Action choice</em>. It is not "a bunch of actions slapped together under this word for no particular reason". I mean, looking at, say, a dragon...would you accept that it could us "Multiattack" to use Claw, Claw and the Breath Weapon? I mean, all it's doing is 'substituting' Breath Weapon attack for it's Bite attack under the "Multiattack", right? Why can't it do that if you let it get away with Claw, Claw, Dash? Breath Weapon is an Action choice of its....just as Dash would be.</p><p></p><p>That is why 'subbing' some other Action with a Multiattack attack makes no sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gawds I hate that term..."subotpimal choice". Its the same thing as saying "Anyone who chooses to have a white care is an idiot because white cars are the most common color of cars that get into injury causing accidents"; some people really like white...their "choice" isn't "suboptimal" except in <em>that one, single VERY narrow view of car safety</em>. It's a choice. Choosing to Grapple with the spellcaster may be the best choice in many situations...just because it doesn't actually inflict DPS does <em>not</em> mean it is "suboptimal".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Sure they can...</p><p></p><p>MM, p6, Modifying Creatures: "... Feel free to tweak an existing creature to make it into something more useful for you, ...". </p><p></p><p>Regardless of that little side-bar in the MM, it goes without saying, really, that a DM can/should modify whatever he feels is best for his campaign. So, as I said at the end of my last post, a DM should do what he feels is cool; if swapping out other attack-choices with Multiattack is cool for you, do it. If it's too open ended, pick a few select combat actions (Grapple, Push, Dash, Dodge) and only those can be swapped. Or, just say no and make it Multiattack as is, -or- a different Combat Action.</p><p></p><p>At the end of the day, its your game. But, by my reading of the rules and what makes sense from my perspective....no, a monster can't swap-out one of it's claw attacks to perform a Dash any more than it could swap out a Claw attack and perform a Breath Weapon attack.</p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 6628969, member: 45197"] Unpon reflection, yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you here. Good point. No, for the simple reason that "Multiattack" is [I]a single Action choice[/I]. It is not "a bunch of actions slapped together under this word for no particular reason". I mean, looking at, say, a dragon...would you accept that it could us "Multiattack" to use Claw, Claw and the Breath Weapon? I mean, all it's doing is 'substituting' Breath Weapon attack for it's Bite attack under the "Multiattack", right? Why can't it do that if you let it get away with Claw, Claw, Dash? Breath Weapon is an Action choice of its....just as Dash would be. That is why 'subbing' some other Action with a Multiattack attack makes no sense. Gawds I hate that term..."subotpimal choice". Its the same thing as saying "Anyone who chooses to have a white care is an idiot because white cars are the most common color of cars that get into injury causing accidents"; some people really like white...their "choice" isn't "suboptimal" except in [I]that one, single VERY narrow view of car safety[/I]. It's a choice. Choosing to Grapple with the spellcaster may be the best choice in many situations...just because it doesn't actually inflict DPS does [I]not[/I] mean it is "suboptimal". Sure they can... MM, p6, Modifying Creatures: "... Feel free to tweak an existing creature to make it into something more useful for you, ...". Regardless of that little side-bar in the MM, it goes without saying, really, that a DM can/should modify whatever he feels is best for his campaign. So, as I said at the end of my last post, a DM should do what he feels is cool; if swapping out other attack-choices with Multiattack is cool for you, do it. If it's too open ended, pick a few select combat actions (Grapple, Push, Dash, Dodge) and only those can be swapped. Or, just say no and make it Multiattack as is, -or- a different Combat Action. At the end of the day, its your game. But, by my reading of the rules and what makes sense from my perspective....no, a monster can't swap-out one of it's claw attacks to perform a Dash any more than it could swap out a Claw attack and perform a Breath Weapon attack. ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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