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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Centurion!" data-source="post: 6922317" data-attributes="member: 6862058">My player took your advice, and asked me to read all of this. Bad advice. Not a bad advice in general, but because he has been such a powerplayer that my other players have begged me to nerf him as the group is now totally unbalanced because of him.  To Top this, he has been playing in a player vs DM-style, and in the end I just gave up the servant/stort-teller angle, and just came down hard on him. Somehow he thought this thread would help me see that I was being unfair, calling for "back-up" I guess. But reading his "portrait" of me and my understanding, has been very dissapointing as well. Yet another attempt to set up a power-struggle, in hopes of running my game. I lost count of how many times he has taken the part as DM in mid-play. Sigh... if this is how he truly feels, then I would say he should take your advice and walk. Or play a figher <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="😉" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" title="Winking face    :wink:" data-shortname=":wink:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> at best.He now plays the paladin like a fighter, with bonus-powers, without purpose. As his DM, I read an oath-paladin to adventure with a purpose. Old-school understanding perhaps, but as long as there is divine spells involved, there is a divine will and a directed purpose expected.  As a DM I try to flavour the game with Gods being actual real gods in this world, where divine magic flows from them as divine favour. So if if my priest is way out of character or straying from his priestly ethics, his powers will flicker. A paladin is a worrior within a clergy. When I asked the paladin what he felt it would take to be an oath-breaker, there was no answer, as his enemy was noone and everyone. Id like some suggestions from you guys <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🙂" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" title="Slightly smiling face    :slight_smile:" data-shortname=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> mostly from those who feel I should not play the part of whomever the paladin gave an oath. In my world divine magic is lent to mere mortals, according to their divine will. If Thats unfair, so be it. And yes, I just told a new player in the group.. he is a transmuter, that I want him to be aware that in my world the schools are like political parties in our world, working together behind closed doors, but officially and in public they are alienating oneanother, due to different understanding and ethics. As for him, he would loose his rep as an upstanding transmuter if caught casting abjuration spells. Limitations? Yes! For the better? According to many of you, and players like this paladin, no. But for some, they might actually like the idea, that wizardry is more than just spells. In my world of causiality, players are bound to the world they live in and interact with (RAI). And the way I read 5e paladin is that he/she rose from a context, with a purpose and an enmity, and was given/chose a cause. This cause is what gave him his powers... so im pretty sure 5e paladin RAW are crusaders like the previous versions, just with a bigger variation, like this LN Bane-paladin (actually Hoar). As he didnt answer to any institutionalized body, any cause, no crusade etc, and lack of emphasy on the religious part, I couldnt find any paladin left. I would be fine with a cause like Let there be freedom for love-poems, or any other weird "holy" crusade. But no. Nothing. I had nothing to work with as DM. And now this. Well.. this p..... me off.Other than that, I agree with most of the comments <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🙂" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" title="Slightly smiling face    :slight_smile:" data-shortname=":slight_smile:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>

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