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So my Dm wants to nerf my Vengence paladin against all but chosen foes?!
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<blockquote data-quote="maraxion" data-source="post: 6922571" data-attributes="member: 6776087"><p>Ok, so this happened!</p><p></p><p>So first of all i want to apologize to my DM if he anyway felt this thread was an attack or threat. All I wanted was input, and it was not to show him he was wrong but to get a perspective on things. It seems I failed.</p><p>I do know the Dm has problems and Im really trying to support him im both the game way and personal and he knows im there if he needs me. But its hard, because you sometime feel totaly useless!</p><p></p><p>I had no idea the other players feel im overpowered because they havent told me. And until last session I havent really used my abilities to the fullest, and i have standard rolled stats(one upped from 16 to 20 by level and one at 20 due to item from Dm), and the startupgear the Dm gave me. I have no other power, and at the same level with equal stats as the others. And the fact that I saved all from an adult dragon seems now in hinsight that we should maybe just died to level things out. As a player yes I am questioning things, but thats more because Im curious and want to know the reason for things. And most of all im trying to help. If somethings is unclear I try get put my 5 cent understanding of the rules in but get ignored often.</p><p></p><p>I love to play and its one of the few things that I really look forward to in my days, and I try to play my characters wel. Normaly I get commended and my DM actually has said that I play wel, (exept last time which was the first time I used sentinel and my smite abilities hard) he actually said I was the easiest to handle and played wel. </p><p></p><p>So yea, im at a loss. The Dm is a great guy, but I feel we are butting heads withouth even knowing why(I atleast dont). It seems my inputs, curiosity and quick ideas(rules and how to fix) around the table is met as an challenge when Its just my personality and that I want to help. </p><p></p><p>Seems I cannot meet the expections of my Dms paladin im afraid. I do play with woving vengance on foes on kills(bigger ones) and utter my deitys name on kills when its feels right. And when i meet people that have met unjustice, I ask them who it was for later refrence. I also try to aid in some degree those who need it and put myself in harms way if it can help my team. For me these things are the paladin, and am now beeing told i dont know what a paladin is, and that im basicly an powergaming fighter with spells. </p><p>Do I play as a smite king or fighter, no I dont think so. Exept for last time Iv hardly used my smites and tried to use spells and normal melee most of the time, because even doh the paladin spells is an odd bunch, their fun. But now That I relly needed to kill something fast it was natural to smite this Huge creature to save my party. Yes I played it bad(was nervous and annoied because of possible wipe and because 2 other players dragged their feet for 3 hours!!! because they dident want to face the dragon) and should have spoken more "Bye Hoar`s name I shal avenge the eskimoes you have slaughtered, and free them from your evil grip" but this session I dident because I was facing a huge foe and I knew if I dident take it down we might acually die. (Never been as high as level 12, and it was my first dragon)</p><p>So in that sence I dont feel that smiting is a «fighter powerplaying wannabe». Yes its powerfull, but its usefull when needed. If I ONLY smited and not used spells att all, wel thats booring and in my mind would ruin my char. But when you have a toolset you need to be able to use them all to get the best job in your eyes done.</p><p></p><p>To me this basicle comes down to a missunderstanding. Im trying to understand his ideals that I cannot find in the book, and trying to understand how to play and why we need to change my character. And not getting info whats wrong with my char, but only his ideals makes this hard. And he maybe feels that I by asking this and questioning the alterations from the rules are trying to get more powerfull and poweplay which is not the idea.</p><p></p><p>Love him, but its strange <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Love the game love him but sometimes it feel like we are on different planets and wants the same thing but the words gets distorted on the way!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Dont think I have much more to say, but thanks for all the input guys!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="maraxion, post: 6922571, member: 6776087"] Ok, so this happened! So first of all i want to apologize to my DM if he anyway felt this thread was an attack or threat. All I wanted was input, and it was not to show him he was wrong but to get a perspective on things. It seems I failed. I do know the Dm has problems and Im really trying to support him im both the game way and personal and he knows im there if he needs me. But its hard, because you sometime feel totaly useless! I had no idea the other players feel im overpowered because they havent told me. And until last session I havent really used my abilities to the fullest, and i have standard rolled stats(one upped from 16 to 20 by level and one at 20 due to item from Dm), and the startupgear the Dm gave me. I have no other power, and at the same level with equal stats as the others. And the fact that I saved all from an adult dragon seems now in hinsight that we should maybe just died to level things out. As a player yes I am questioning things, but thats more because Im curious and want to know the reason for things. And most of all im trying to help. If somethings is unclear I try get put my 5 cent understanding of the rules in but get ignored often. I love to play and its one of the few things that I really look forward to in my days, and I try to play my characters wel. Normaly I get commended and my DM actually has said that I play wel, (exept last time which was the first time I used sentinel and my smite abilities hard) he actually said I was the easiest to handle and played wel. So yea, im at a loss. The Dm is a great guy, but I feel we are butting heads withouth even knowing why(I atleast dont). It seems my inputs, curiosity and quick ideas(rules and how to fix) around the table is met as an challenge when Its just my personality and that I want to help. Seems I cannot meet the expections of my Dms paladin im afraid. I do play with woving vengance on foes on kills(bigger ones) and utter my deitys name on kills when its feels right. And when i meet people that have met unjustice, I ask them who it was for later refrence. I also try to aid in some degree those who need it and put myself in harms way if it can help my team. For me these things are the paladin, and am now beeing told i dont know what a paladin is, and that im basicly an powergaming fighter with spells. Do I play as a smite king or fighter, no I dont think so. Exept for last time Iv hardly used my smites and tried to use spells and normal melee most of the time, because even doh the paladin spells is an odd bunch, their fun. But now That I relly needed to kill something fast it was natural to smite this Huge creature to save my party. Yes I played it bad(was nervous and annoied because of possible wipe and because 2 other players dragged their feet for 3 hours!!! because they dident want to face the dragon) and should have spoken more "Bye Hoar`s name I shal avenge the eskimoes you have slaughtered, and free them from your evil grip" but this session I dident because I was facing a huge foe and I knew if I dident take it down we might acually die. (Never been as high as level 12, and it was my first dragon) So in that sence I dont feel that smiting is a «fighter powerplaying wannabe». Yes its powerfull, but its usefull when needed. If I ONLY smited and not used spells att all, wel thats booring and in my mind would ruin my char. But when you have a toolset you need to be able to use them all to get the best job in your eyes done. To me this basicle comes down to a missunderstanding. Im trying to understand his ideals that I cannot find in the book, and trying to understand how to play and why we need to change my character. And not getting info whats wrong with my char, but only his ideals makes this hard. And he maybe feels that I by asking this and questioning the alterations from the rules are trying to get more powerfull and poweplay which is not the idea. Love him, but its strange :) Love the game love him but sometimes it feel like we are on different planets and wants the same thing but the words gets distorted on the way! Dont think I have much more to say, but thanks for all the input guys! [/QUOTE]
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