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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6820883" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Zardnaar is accurate. </p><p>Rogues in 4e only ever did a couple extra d6 of damage, which was their sneak attack dice. That was their striker damage, and separated them from other classes, in addition to occasionally higher numbers in Encounter and Daily powers. So granting them an extra melee basic attack only did a "piddly 2 extra dice" compared to any other class. </p><p>As he says, the battle master's superiority die granted attack synergizes very nicely with the rogue, since it grants at least an additional d8 damage and has the potential for sneak attack damage. It's a very high damage spike in place of a single attack, and a very effective strategy. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Other than the dearth of popular warlords on the DMsGuild website that are moving copies. </p><p>If the warlord was half as popular as you insist, there would have been a half-dozen warlords, commanders, generals, and marshals on the store, and a couple would be Silver best sellers or at least Copper. Rather than two that haven't been able to move 50 copies in a month or 3 weeks respectively. </p><p>Similarly, if there was a strong demand for an actual warlord class revealed through the surveys, then WotC would have probably given us a playtest of one already. </p><p></p><p></p><p>So you're not even going to support people trying to make content for you? You've said yourself you have no intention of ever designing your own warlord class, and you don't want to financially support fan efforts either?</p><p>That's not a great way of encouraging future designers to attempt a full class... </p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that a very, very, very small number of people view the walord that way. Like under a dozen.</p><p>It's also a very edition war laden statement and I don't think many people care about the edition wars any more. People fight edition wars when they're unhappy, and there's just not enough people really unhappy now for the edition wars to matter. The people who like 3e have Pathfinder, the people who like 4e still have 4e, and everyone else has 5e which is doing gangbusters. The edition wars are over. </p><p></p><p>Ultimatums like that don't work. The fanbase is too large and has too many voices for small opinions to really resonate. They have larger issues about managing the entire game line to really concern themselves with small message board squabbles. We frequent message boards on our free time because D&D is our hobby. D&D is their job, and they have work to do which likely means little time to surf message boards; doing so at home is akin to working on your off hours. Not very fun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6820883, member: 37579"] Zardnaar is accurate. Rogues in 4e only ever did a couple extra d6 of damage, which was their sneak attack dice. That was their striker damage, and separated them from other classes, in addition to occasionally higher numbers in Encounter and Daily powers. So granting them an extra melee basic attack only did a "piddly 2 extra dice" compared to any other class. As he says, the battle master's superiority die granted attack synergizes very nicely with the rogue, since it grants at least an additional d8 damage and has the potential for sneak attack damage. It's a very high damage spike in place of a single attack, and a very effective strategy. Other than the dearth of popular warlords on the DMsGuild website that are moving copies. If the warlord was half as popular as you insist, there would have been a half-dozen warlords, commanders, generals, and marshals on the store, and a couple would be Silver best sellers or at least Copper. Rather than two that haven't been able to move 50 copies in a month or 3 weeks respectively. Similarly, if there was a strong demand for an actual warlord class revealed through the surveys, then WotC would have probably given us a playtest of one already. So you're not even going to support people trying to make content for you? You've said yourself you have no intention of ever designing your own warlord class, and you don't want to financially support fan efforts either? That's not a great way of encouraging future designers to attempt a full class... I think that a very, very, very small number of people view the walord that way. Like under a dozen. It's also a very edition war laden statement and I don't think many people care about the edition wars any more. People fight edition wars when they're unhappy, and there's just not enough people really unhappy now for the edition wars to matter. The people who like 3e have Pathfinder, the people who like 4e still have 4e, and everyone else has 5e which is doing gangbusters. The edition wars are over. Ultimatums like that don't work. The fanbase is too large and has too many voices for small opinions to really resonate. They have larger issues about managing the entire game line to really concern themselves with small message board squabbles. We frequent message boards on our free time because D&D is our hobby. D&D is their job, and they have work to do which likely means little time to surf message boards; doing so at home is akin to working on your off hours. Not very fun. [/QUOTE]
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