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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6821255" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>No, you can't, you can't even come close. You could clone 3.5 because the core was all sitting there in the SRD. You could clone earlier eds because the core of 3.5 wasn't that different from earlier eds - the old classes were there, their progressions were similar, the old spells were there at the same levels, you just tweaked things. 4e was locked up by comparison, you can't re-publish any of the core classes or their powers or the general rules or other content of the game like you can still do with 3.5, and can now even do with a sub-set of 5e. </p><p></p><p>That is the exact opposite of what's true. 5e design is much looser-balanced, and higher-powered. A direct port of the 4e warlord would be non-viable for want of resources relative to the casters that currently handle comparable support contributions.</p><p></p><p>He is not, neither are you. </p><p></p><p>False. SA dice increased with Tier, at-will powers or features added additional damage, as well. </p><p></p><p>A fighter archetype disengenously posing as a warlord substitute is no such content.</p><p></p><p>It's a very edition-war-laden topic. The Warlord was introduced in the 4e PH. It's the target of ongoing edition-warring. </p><p></p><p>When 4e was the current edition, people who liked 4e had 4e, people who liked 3.5 had Pathfinder, and people who like older eds had OSR retro-clones. Everyone had what they wanted, but there was an edition war. </p><p></p><p>On the contrary, WotC, in seemingly catering to the h4ter by killing 4e, made it look like such ultimatums worked, and by continuing to create that appearance by excluding the Warlord from 5e, they deepen that impression. </p><p></p><p></p><p>1st module syndrome. It's become a thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6821255, member: 996"] No, you can't, you can't even come close. You could clone 3.5 because the core was all sitting there in the SRD. You could clone earlier eds because the core of 3.5 wasn't that different from earlier eds - the old classes were there, their progressions were similar, the old spells were there at the same levels, you just tweaked things. 4e was locked up by comparison, you can't re-publish any of the core classes or their powers or the general rules or other content of the game like you can still do with 3.5, and can now even do with a sub-set of 5e. That is the exact opposite of what's true. 5e design is much looser-balanced, and higher-powered. A direct port of the 4e warlord would be non-viable for want of resources relative to the casters that currently handle comparable support contributions. He is not, neither are you. False. SA dice increased with Tier, at-will powers or features added additional damage, as well. A fighter archetype disengenously posing as a warlord substitute is no such content. It's a very edition-war-laden topic. The Warlord was introduced in the 4e PH. It's the target of ongoing edition-warring. When 4e was the current edition, people who liked 4e had 4e, people who liked 3.5 had Pathfinder, and people who like older eds had OSR retro-clones. Everyone had what they wanted, but there was an edition war. On the contrary, WotC, in seemingly catering to the h4ter by killing 4e, made it look like such ultimatums worked, and by continuing to create that appearance by excluding the Warlord from 5e, they deepen that impression. 1st module syndrome. It's become a thing. [/QUOTE]
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