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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CM" data-source="post: 6297850" data-attributes="member: 18340">To address OP's question (and some of these were already mentioned):<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It's human nature to want to build on/improve things you like. If people *weren't* arguing about Pathfinder, I would find it more odd. I'm a diehard 4e fan and I know it has plenty of flaws, so I strive to fix them.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Even though it's large, ENWorld is still just a tiny fraction of the gaming community as a whole. Tempest in a teapot.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Confirmation bias</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pathfinder rulebooks are only a portion of the entire product line. Many of Paizo's Pathfinder products are edition-agnostic or can be adapted to other systems. I was daydreaming the other day about running a steampunk-style Fullmetal Alchemist type game using 4e. I'd certainly look into Pathfinder's gunslinger to mine for ideas.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Finally, you're sounding a little defensive. Lighten up. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></li> </ul></blockquote>