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So the question is... why is pathfinder selling so well?
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<blockquote data-quote="Gorgon Zee" data-source="post: 6298063" data-attributes="member: 75787"><p><strong>Ideas, not Form</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This.</p><p></p><p>If you want to play D&D, and you look around, it is the only choice that is readily obvious. I play the occasional PF game, but pretty much just because it's a default that everyone I play with can play. </p><p></p><p>D&D was overwhelmingly popular during the 3.0 / 3.5 era, so most gamers played and know the rules to at least some extent. When 4e came out, those who didn't like it moved to PF. When 4e support died, those people generally either retreated to PF or picked up something new. It's the default game. </p><p></p><p>I read a great book "understanding comics" recently, and one argument made there is that there is a split between people who want to explore the form as opposed to those who want to use the form to convey ideas. In comics, the former are people who experiment with how the comic appears; the latter those who decide on a form and use it to explore ideas(*). I would not be surprised if there is a similar split in gaming. I like to explore different forms, so I play many games and try new systems. Other people don't care as much about the form, and instead want to settle on a system and use that to tell amazing stories.</p><p></p><p>For those people, there is really no compelling reason to do anything but pick a system that is solid, if not spectacular, that reaches as large an audience as possible, and that they can get good support for as they develop their ideas in that form. </p><p></p><p>Sounds like Pathfinder to me.</p><p></p><p>(*) Gross generalization; the book says it much better</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gorgon Zee, post: 6298063, member: 75787"] [b]Ideas, not Form[/b] This. If you want to play D&D, and you look around, it is the only choice that is readily obvious. I play the occasional PF game, but pretty much just because it's a default that everyone I play with can play. D&D was overwhelmingly popular during the 3.0 / 3.5 era, so most gamers played and know the rules to at least some extent. When 4e came out, those who didn't like it moved to PF. When 4e support died, those people generally either retreated to PF or picked up something new. It's the default game. I read a great book "understanding comics" recently, and one argument made there is that there is a split between people who want to explore the form as opposed to those who want to use the form to convey ideas. In comics, the former are people who experiment with how the comic appears; the latter those who decide on a form and use it to explore ideas(*). I would not be surprised if there is a similar split in gaming. I like to explore different forms, so I play many games and try new systems. Other people don't care as much about the form, and instead want to settle on a system and use that to tell amazing stories. For those people, there is really no compelling reason to do anything but pick a system that is solid, if not spectacular, that reaches as large an audience as possible, and that they can get good support for as they develop their ideas in that form. Sounds like Pathfinder to me. (*) Gross generalization; the book says it much better [/QUOTE]
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