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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 728346" data-attributes="member: 4720"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Light AND Medium</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tentative agreement. Of course, a heavily-armored fighter who takes Imp. Unarmed is NOT doing Kung Fu. He's probably using a form of Western boxing which takes advantage of the weight and strength of his equipment, and negates the fact that he doesn't have full mobility in his shoulders. He'd close with you, negating your weapon by getting inside your reach and deliver a gauntleted pummeling about the head and shoulders while your weapons clang harmlessly off his shoulder plates. Unless you're taller than him, and then he better get under and inside so he can control your movement or take you to the ground. An unarmored monk, on the other hand, would be using his mobility to keep out of the way of your weapon and simply control your movement via grappling, etc. While a lightly-armored Ranger or Rogue with two weapons would be clearing your weapon with one hand and skewering you with the other, or trapping your weapon with both of his and trying to take you down with a trip or shoulder, preferentially keeping your weapon in the process <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> . The fighting style is partially a flavor issue, and partially a natural outgrowth of their equipment. A monk who puts on full-plate can no longer use the vast majority of the moves he trained in. Carrying that much weight and limiting his mobility negates his entire fighting style. Similarly, a dexterous Ranger/Rogue who uses two weapons effectively would not have the range of motion in his shoulders to use many of the moves he's used to, and heavy gauntlets on his forearms would cut down on the quickness necessary to use two weapons effectively.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 728346, member: 4720"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Light AND Medium[/b] Tentative agreement. Of course, a heavily-armored fighter who takes Imp. Unarmed is NOT doing Kung Fu. He's probably using a form of Western boxing which takes advantage of the weight and strength of his equipment, and negates the fact that he doesn't have full mobility in his shoulders. He'd close with you, negating your weapon by getting inside your reach and deliver a gauntleted pummeling about the head and shoulders while your weapons clang harmlessly off his shoulder plates. Unless you're taller than him, and then he better get under and inside so he can control your movement or take you to the ground. An unarmored monk, on the other hand, would be using his mobility to keep out of the way of your weapon and simply control your movement via grappling, etc. While a lightly-armored Ranger or Rogue with two weapons would be clearing your weapon with one hand and skewering you with the other, or trapping your weapon with both of his and trying to take you down with a trip or shoulder, preferentially keeping your weapon in the process :) . The fighting style is partially a flavor issue, and partially a natural outgrowth of their equipment. A monk who puts on full-plate can no longer use the vast majority of the moves he trained in. Carrying that much weight and limiting his mobility negates his entire fighting style. Similarly, a dexterous Ranger/Rogue who uses two weapons effectively would not have the range of motion in his shoulders to use many of the moves he's used to, and heavy gauntlets on his forearms would cut down on the quickness necessary to use two weapons effectively. [/QUOTE]
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