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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6315376" data-attributes="member: 7006">I'm expecting that my reactions to the 5E PH will be quite different than my reactions to the 3E PH when that was released... in that I'm thinking I'm going to feel more pangs of small annoyance by little things that either changed or were not changed enough than I did with 3E.  Reason being that unless MAJOR changes occurred following the closing of the playtest... I already know what the main differences and big changes to the game are.  Thus the "HOLY CRAP, THAT'S BRILLIANT!" reaction that I had to many parts of the 3E book that got changed (of which I knew very little of before reading it) will not be present because I've already experienced it over the course of the playtest.Case in point... I thought the 3E changes to saving throws (to the Fort/Ref/Will model) was one of the greatest things I had ever seen for a D&D mechanics change that made absolute sense and in my opinion made the game so much better.  While at the same time... I think the 5E change of Advantage/Disadvantage rather than small numeric bonuses is almost as great and just as brilliant.  However, the downside is that I've already been living with that change for over a year now... so when I read the 5E book, what would've been a "MY GOD, I LOVE THIS!" moment just won't be there.  So ironically... with so many major parts of rules that I would've ordinarily been fawning over now already known to me and I'm no longer emotionally gobsmacked by... much of what will be left will be lots of just small niggling complaints of minor rules differences that would ordinarily have been drowned out by my bigger reactions to the bigger changes.  So it's weird to think that I might end up feeling worse about the 5E PH than I otherwise might have, despite the fact I really love a lot of what they've seemingly done with it.  I almost hope that some things I haven't yet seen (the new warlock and sorcerer, many sub-classes, etc.) do have some huge changes and implications so that they drown out whatever my ultimate feelings of what was finally decided on for crit rules (for example) have become.Here's hoping!  Because I'd love to still have an "OH CRAP!" moment once or twice when I read the book.  Those are fun and very satisfying.</blockquote>

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