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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 8215516" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p>Torturer - that's the part you need to show. That Agnes is doing it to hurt Wanda.</p><p></p><p>Show that it's not the cut of a scapel trying to break Wanda out of whatever mental trap she's retreated to. To wake up and see what she's doing. Not even just for altruistic reasons - she's clearly not a hero - but just because that might bring attention of the magical world that is unwanted.</p><p></p><p>Heck, just show that the dog is even dead, since we know Agnes can do illusions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>"Sadistic" is a judgement about her motives. You seem sure on them, but what's been presented in the show has ambiguity. If the writers wanted us to <em>know</em> she's evil, a change in the line of the witch's execution to show unpardonable acts or some other aspect outside her reactions (which you claim as faked) could easily have been included.</p><p></p><p>But instead the charge is vague, her own mother rejects her, and the only information we have is her begging for guidance and the feelings of surprise, which even if you ignore without reason doesn't leave any proof she's sadistic and just trying to harm Wanda. The best guess we have from her words <em>and actions</em> is that she's jealous, greedy and vain about her magic, and wants to know Wanda's secrets. But none of that supports sadistic and a want to cause pain.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 8215516, member: 20564"] Torturer - that's the part you need to show. That Agnes is doing it to hurt Wanda. Show that it's not the cut of a scapel trying to break Wanda out of whatever mental trap she's retreated to. To wake up and see what she's doing. Not even just for altruistic reasons - she's clearly not a hero - but just because that might bring attention of the magical world that is unwanted. Heck, just show that the dog is even dead, since we know Agnes can do illusions. "Sadistic" is a judgement about her motives. You seem sure on them, but what's been presented in the show has ambiguity. If the writers wanted us to [I]know[/I] she's evil, a change in the line of the witch's execution to show unpardonable acts or some other aspect outside her reactions (which you claim as faked) could easily have been included. But instead the charge is vague, her own mother rejects her, and the only information we have is her begging for guidance and the feelings of surprise, which even if you ignore without reason doesn't leave any proof she's sadistic and just trying to harm Wanda. The best guess we have from her words [I]and actions[/I] is that she's jealous, greedy and vain about her magic, and wants to know Wanda's secrets. But none of that supports sadistic and a want to cause pain. [/QUOTE]
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