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<blockquote data-quote="TheGorramBatman" data-source="post: 6369922" data-attributes="member: 6778804">First:&nbsp; At low levels the DC hardly matters.&nbsp; Low level monsters are pretty lousy at hitting things in the first place.&nbsp; If a player has a better than average chance of being missed as well as a better than average chance of making the save, then the situation is a molehill.Second:&nbsp; The DC will not likely be much higher than 10.&nbsp; It can be but with flattened math, 20 is a lot of damage.&nbsp; For instance an Adult Male Blue Dragon (CR 16) deals 3d10 + 7 with its bite.&nbsp; That is an average damage of only 23.5.&nbsp; This results in the horrifyingly high average concentration check of 12 at a time the character probably should have both Warcaster and Resilient anyway.&nbsp; So, no, I wouldn't be worried about the DCs getting that absurd.Third:&nbsp; I'm not sure what sort of D&amp;D you're playing, but I've never seen a character just sit in the back with one finger firmly rooted in their nostril while the other fingers cast spells and go completely unscathed from the experience.&nbsp; Ever.&nbsp; This round's good positioning is just next rounds bad positioning.Concentration is a red herring.&nbsp; Hex damage wins the argument for EB without having to bring the unimaginative or kid's-gloves DMs into the equation.Edit:&nbsp; Although it did just occur to me that a high level Eldritch Blast does force 4 concentration checks all on its own in addition to all of its other goodies.&nbsp; Unless we're going to see an abundance of +3 Flaming Brilliant Energy Longswords, Eldritch Blast is likely the best &quot;attack sequence&quot; in the game.&nbsp; By a lot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheGorramBatman, post: 6369922, member: 6778804"] First: At low levels the DC hardly matters. Low level monsters are pretty lousy at hitting things in the first place. If a player has a better than average chance of being missed as well as a better than average chance of making the save, then the situation is a molehill. Second: The DC will not likely be much higher than 10. It [I]can[/I] be but with flattened math, 20 is a lot of damage. For instance an Adult Male Blue Dragon (CR 16) deals 3d10 + 7 with its bite. That is an average damage of only 23.5. This results in the horrifyingly high average concentration check of 12 at a time the character probably should have both Warcaster and Resilient anyway. So, no, I wouldn't be worried about the DCs getting that absurd. Third: I'm not sure what sort of D&D you're playing, but I've [I]never[/I] seen a character just sit in the back with one finger firmly rooted in their nostril while the other fingers cast spells and go completely unscathed from the experience. [I]Ever[/I]. This round's good positioning is just next rounds bad positioning. Concentration is a red herring. Hex damage wins the argument for EB without having to bring the unimaginative or kid's-gloves DMs into the equation. Edit: Although it did just occur to me that a high level Eldritch Blast does force 4 concentration checks all on its own in addition to all of its other goodies. Unless we're going to see an abundance of +3 Flaming Brilliant Energy Longswords, Eldritch Blast is likely the best "attack sequence" in the game. By a lot. [/QUOTE]

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