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<blockquote data-quote="Wisdom Penalty" data-source="post: 4612286" data-attributes="member: 13287">Night - Having never played Epic (or Paragon levels, for that matter), I'm very interested in reports like this and I thank you for sharing.I admit I'm a bit concerned about your statement, however, that the epic fight did not seem too much different than lower level fights. While we are enjoying our low-level fights in our currently-4th level campaign, I'm worried that such sentiments will grow stale if the game doesn't change as one increases in level.Here's the quandary as I see it: 4e introduced a strong foundation of mathematical progression that helps maintain balance through all levels of play, something that was sorely lacking in previous editions of D&amp;D.&nbsp; All well and good. But if the feeling isn't there amongst the PCs that they are growing in power, then have we achieved a design that gives us what we wanted (balance) at the expense of enjoyment (increasing levels of power)?For 4E to work, I think, each tier of adventuring should feel markedly different from the other tiers. When players reach Paragon level, those fights and encounters should seem different from the encounters they faced in the Heroic Tier. Ditto for Epic.I will allow that &quot;enjoyment&quot; is the #1 goal of any design. If Heroic = Paragon = Epic and all tiers = fun, then that's a win. But I do have some trepidation on this issue.WP</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wisdom Penalty, post: 4612286, member: 13287"] Night - Having never played Epic (or Paragon levels, for that matter), I'm very interested in reports like this and I thank you for sharing. I admit I'm a bit concerned about your statement, however, that the epic fight did not seem too much different than lower level fights. While we are enjoying our low-level fights in our currently-4th level campaign, I'm worried that such sentiments will grow stale if the game doesn't change as one increases in level. Here's the quandary as I see it: 4e introduced a strong foundation of mathematical progression that helps maintain balance through all levels of play, something that was sorely lacking in previous editions of D&D. All well and good. But if the [i]feeling[/i] isn't there amongst the PCs that they are growing in power, then have we achieved a design that gives us what we wanted (balance) at the expense of enjoyment (increasing levels of power)? For 4E to work, I think, each tier of adventuring should feel markedly different from the other tiers. When players reach Paragon level, those fights and encounters should seem different from the encounters they faced in the Heroic Tier. Ditto for Epic. I will allow that "enjoyment" is the #1 goal of any design. If Heroic = Paragon = Epic and all tiers = fun, then that's a win. But I do have some trepidation on this issue. WP [/QUOTE]

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