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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Midknightsun" data-source="post: 3938876" data-attributes="member: 46459">Meh, I've played my share of everymen.Most of the time, they end up dead, face down, in a ditch.I don't mind a some grittyness to my games (Heck, I'd love to play a Midnight Campaign), but if i want to play average-joe, I'll just be me and hang the dice up.As both a DM and Player, I've found low level D&D to be mostly a whole lot of not-fun.  Now, I have no problem with having my rear end handed to me on ocassion (Frankly, it gives me more motivation to try harder), but I've done enough low level, "Dear gods, don't let the kobold crit me with that spoon or I'm done for!," D&D to last a lifetime.I think a little more durability would go a long way towards encouraging heroic action, instead of spending all your low levels hiding and hoping they goblins dont notice you (and your chainmail laden fighter friend).I've actually started my last couple campaigns at third level, but I like the idea of just giving triple hit dice at first level as well, and advancing from there.So, while I understand those who like the everyman aspect of fantasy, I can safely say that if its lacking in 4e, I won't be saddened one bit.</blockquote>