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<blockquote data-quote="Warskull" data-source="post: 6290686" data-attributes="member: 6775133">Summoners - A class that simply should not exist.&nbsp; In fact summoning and pet classes in general are very poorly handed in both 3.5 and Pathfinder.Metamagic Rods - these should not exist in their current form.&nbsp; It is way too much of a boon for casters to be able to apply Metamagic without taking a feat or manipulating spell levels.&nbsp; Sure they are pricey, but Wizards and Sorcs don't tend to spend a lot of money on weapons and armor, so they often have the spare cash.Prestige Classes - Most of these are uninteresting and terrible.&nbsp; Prestige classes were an interesting feature that got out of control in 3.5.&nbsp; Pathfinder swung back a bit too hard the other way.Balance is still kind of screwed up in general - less screwed up than 3.5, but still fairly broken.&nbsp; It really detracts from the game as your players become adept with the system.I strongly agree here.&nbsp; It wouldn't be a full edition hop like 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to 4th, but more of a system revamp and rebuild like 3.0 to 3.5.&nbsp; A Pathfinder 1.5 could be really healthy for Pathfinder in general.&nbsp; I feel a lot of things needs to be removed from the game, certain classes and items were ill thought out.&nbsp; The main classes could certainly use a bit of rebalancing.&nbsp; Rogues and Bards need a bit of help.&nbsp; The major caster classes, Wizard, Druid, and Cleric could still use some nerfing at higher levels.I suppose this is just the cycle of tabletop RPGs.&nbsp; All of them are broken, as players become familiar with them and more material is added they become more broken.&nbsp; Eventually, you need to find a new RPG because you and your group have too much understanding about how broken a system is.We won't be able to fix this cycle until tabletop gaming as a whole adopts digital formats and gains the ability to more frequently and effectively update their rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warskull, post: 6290686, member: 6775133"] [B]Summoners[/B] - A class that simply should not exist. In fact summoning and pet classes in general are very poorly handed in both 3.5 and Pathfinder. [B]Metamagic Rods[/B] - these should not exist in their current form. It is way too much of a boon for casters to be able to apply Metamagic without taking a feat or manipulating spell levels. Sure they are pricey, but Wizards and Sorcs don't tend to spend a lot of money on weapons and armor, so they often have the spare cash. [B]Prestige Classes[/B] - Most of these are uninteresting and terrible. Prestige classes were an interesting feature that got out of control in 3.5. Pathfinder swung back a bit too hard the other way. [B]Balance is still kind of screwed up in general[/B] - less screwed up than 3.5, but still fairly broken. It really detracts from the game as your players become adept with the system. [COLOR=#000000] I strongly agree here. It wouldn't be a full edition hop like 2nd to 3rd or 3rd to 4th, but more of a system revamp and rebuild like 3.0 to 3.5. A Pathfinder 1.5 could be really healthy for Pathfinder in general. I feel a lot of things needs to be removed from the game, certain classes and items were ill thought out. The main classes could certainly use a bit of rebalancing. Rogues and Bards need a bit of help. The major caster classes, Wizard, Druid, and Cleric could still use some nerfing at higher levels. I suppose this is just the cycle of tabletop RPGs. All of them are broken, as players become familiar with them and more material is added they become more broken. Eventually, you need to find a new RPG because you and your group have too much understanding about how broken a system is. We won't be able to fix this cycle until tabletop gaming as a whole adopts digital formats and gains the ability to more frequently and effectively update their rules.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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