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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tuft" data-source="post: 6292930" data-attributes="member: 60045">I play a Pathfinder Bard in our Skull&Shackles campaign. I've got enough Use Magic Device to be able to use just about any scroll I can buy - and our GM is very liberal with magic item purchases.And still I find that I use the skill every time instead of a spell on a scroll... Why? Simple - all a matter of action economy. When the brown goo hits the whirly-thingy, it is much better to climb or jump now, instead of flying next round... As for skill points, we've always house-ruled in 3.0 and 3.5 that  INT increases are retroactive, so the Pathfinder rule is no stranger to us.  However, when the wizard gets an INT item, you get an item that increases the attribute that is appropriate to the skill and this raises the max in a way merely more skill points are unable to do. Of course, the item creation bonus is shared with all in the group - same cost for all. When there are multiple casters in the group the creation feats are often distributed - "you do wondrous items, I'll do wands, and she'll do weapons...". (In our current campaign we instead have an equal number of additional NPCs each that benefit all with their creation feats - the advantage of having a ship with a crew... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> )As for sneaking, I've found in practice that there are just too many ways around it - monsters with scent, blindsense, tremorsense, etc, etc, that it simply makes a healthy stealth skill the safer option - even more so with increasing level. Also note that invisibility as far as I recall is not absolute in Pathfinder. It is just a major bonus to stealth - so if you don't have a decent DEX score and stealth skill as a base, well, it's just going to take you so far. And the stealthy character will probably get that +5 stealth item, since it is her speciality, while the "rule them all" wizard hardly can get a +5 item for every skill... (Oh, the slots! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> )</blockquote>

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