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<blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6294234" data-attributes="member: 17106">Everyone's playing pretend-wizard and pretend-cleric and pretend-fighter and pretend-rogue. This is not news.Not for a house wall. For a thicker wall, I suppose so.But there are no such people. There are no level 10 characters that don't have access to voluminous magical abilities. Some people have a fortune of treasure plus BAB and skills, and some people have a fortune of treasure plus a few extra spells. Either way, the treasure is central to the game and consists mostly of magic items. Again, this is not news.I'm sure you're similarly dismissive of wizards or clerics who try to play &quot;pretend-fighter&quot; through buffs and summons. After all, it's very difficult for someone who isn't a fighter or a &quot;pretend-fighter&quot; to get through a battle, which is rather more important than getting through a wall.I'm not seeing anything is this vague scenario we're discussing where it would even present a meaningful benefit to have a spellcaster of any sort in the party.Sure, that's why we're discussing it. As I see it, leaving high-level spell slots open is generally a suboptimal decision that will reduce the character's effectiveness and increase the chances of his death. Sometimes it can work, but if we're talking about &quot;stuff that makes a wizard powerful&quot; this is not on my list of stuff.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ahnehnois, post: 6294234, member: 17106"] Everyone's playing pretend-wizard and pretend-cleric and pretend-fighter and pretend-rogue. This is not news. Not for a house wall. For a thicker wall, I suppose so. But there are no such people. There are no level 10 characters that don't have access to voluminous magical abilities. Some people have a fortune of treasure plus BAB and skills, and some people have a fortune of treasure plus a few extra spells. Either way, the treasure is central to the game and consists mostly of magic items. Again, this is not news. I'm sure you're similarly dismissive of wizards or clerics who try to play "pretend-fighter" through buffs and summons. After all, it's very difficult for someone who isn't a fighter or a "pretend-fighter" to get through a battle, which is rather more important than getting through a wall. I'm not seeing anything is this vague scenario we're discussing where it would even present a meaningful benefit to have a spellcaster of any sort in the party. Sure, that's why we're discussing it. As I see it, leaving high-level spell slots open is generally a suboptimal decision that will reduce the character's effectiveness and increase the chances of his death. Sometimes it can work, but if we're talking about "stuff that makes a wizard powerful" this is not on my list of stuff. [/QUOTE]

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