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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6294609" data-attributes="member: 177">I think that's a flawed way to view it.&nbsp; It isn't that non-casters have been turned into casters, or vice versa.&nbsp; It is *both*, and neither.&nbsp; Yes, non-casters get to do things we used to think of only for casters, but it goes the other way too - casters do things that we used to think non-casters could do.&nbsp; The generalized (AEDU) power structure shifts the differentiation between &quot;caster&quot; and &quot;non-caster&quot; to fluff, rather than mechanics.&nbsp; They are all just *characters*.&nbsp; It used to be that caster/non-caster was a meaningful functional distinction, but in 4e it mostly isn't.&nbsp; The meaningful distinction was instead shifted into the roles of Defender, Controller, Striker, and Leader.&nbsp; Continuing to hold to or be concerned with the caster/non-caster divide in 4e is like expecting to find pith on an apple - simply nonsensical.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6294609, member: 177"] I think that's a flawed way to view it. It isn't that non-casters have been turned into casters, or vice versa. It is *both*, and neither. Yes, non-casters get to do things we used to think of only for casters, but it goes the other way too - casters do things that we used to think non-casters could do. The generalized (AEDU) power structure shifts the differentiation between "caster" and "non-caster" to fluff, rather than mechanics. They are all just *characters*. It used to be that caster/non-caster was a meaningful functional distinction, but in 4e it mostly isn't. The meaningful distinction was instead shifted into the roles of Defender, Controller, Striker, and Leader. Continuing to hold to or be concerned with the caster/non-caster divide in 4e is like expecting to find pith on an apple - simply nonsensical. [/QUOTE]

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