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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6296555" data-attributes="member: 6689464">These are just strawmanning, I have yet to see a single working build that is as broken as a core-only wizard. On their own all these aren't as unbalancing as you make it seem.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Favored class bonus.- until you reach 4th level, all these are good for are to get extra cantrips (and you can never get 9th level spells out of the deal). Not to mention it locks down your race on human. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Pages of spell knowledge.- talk about an awfully specific magic item with limited appeal, at low levels a single page consumes yhe practical totality of you alotted wealth by level. This is also an item you cannot craft yoursef (because otherwise you wouldn't need it), you need to somehow convince a wizard or another sorcerer to do it for you. If you get tons and tons of these, the DM is the only one to blame. Even at 20th level you can only afford ten 9th level pages, hardly every spell under the sun. (and that leaves out thes fancy bracers of armor and cloaks of resistance, not to mention the scaling crown of charisma). </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Mnemonic vestments.- To be fair, this one is overpowered and underpriced, yet it only works ONCE PER DAY, and where are you getting those many scrolls? you are spending all of your money on pages of spell knowledge. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Razmiran Priest.- Awfully speciffic prestige class, camapaign specific, you cannot be good, requires two feats that are worthless to you as a sorcerer, and it costs you three caster levels to get a worse cure wounds. Or sorry, you meant that archetype that replaces your bloodline with some cleric spells and an unreliable charge saving option? </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Paragon surge.- Sorry I tought you were human to get three more cantrips at first level, (sorry for the snark). Either you get the extra spells from being human of the free feat a few minutes per day. You cannot get both. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spell perfection.- This is an specializing feat, you pick a single spell to affect -thus the opposite of niche breaking-. Not to mention you can only pick it once. </li> </ul>Finally give me one in-game reason every sorcerer would desire to act like the quintessential batman wizard. Where is this "My character is a genius, ergo he should be attempting to break the game" by default justification?. Show me one sorcerer who can act as a niche-breaking wizard without specializing in any single niche. It is way easier to just pick a niche and run with it than attempt to do every single one without specializing. (Even if you succeed that would be an awfully speciffic build among many possible ones, instead of it happening "by accident" or "by default". If you have to go out of the way to break the game with a sorcerer, is the class really broken or is the player the one who breaks everything?)</blockquote>

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