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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 9818639" data-attributes="member: 6802951">Of all the "Core Four" roles, and assuming a decent level of challenge, the Rogue is really the only class that the Artificer replaces based on thatOf all the "Core Four" roles, and assuming a decent level of challenge, the Rogue is really the only class that the Artificer replaces based on that list. Their magic items give them versatility that the Rogue would use skills for, and they have reasonable consistent damage. Artificer spellcasting is closer to an Arcane Trickster Rogue than an actual full caster.Looking at the other roles: Battle Smith or Armourer could replace Fighter, particularly if a Ranger also could, but so can Bladesingers, Land Druids and many Clerics.You could try replacing a Cleric with Alchemist or Artillerist, but Hit Point restoration isn't the only Cleric role, and even the Alchemist does not get access to condition-removing spells like Restorations at the levels at which they are vital.Likewise while the Artificer has access to lots of magical abilities if they are built that way, they do not have the high-end capabilities of a full caster like the Wizard: No Fireballs or Spirit Guardians at 5th level No Mass Suggestion, or Contingency at 11th level. Tier 3 and 4 Artificers can cast a lot of level 3 spells, but generally these will taper off in usefulness as levels increase other than just a source of damage or Hit Points.</blockquote>