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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Clint_L" data-source="post: 9818718" data-attributes="member: 7035894"><p>Further to my point above, the idea of clearly defined and necessary roles that need to be filled in the party stams back to OD&D and evolved to reach its apotheosis in CRPGs, especially World of Warcraft, which by all accounts was a strong influence on how 4e built its classes to fit into those same roles. 5e obviously moved hard in the other direction, making combat much less dependent on particular niches being filled, and making so that every class has different niches it can fill as needed and desired. The artificer, perhaps because it came last, sort of feels like the strongest expression of that design philosophy, and can pretty easily slot into any niche the player wants.</p></blockquote><p></p>