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Message: <blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 7343945" data-attributes="member: 40166">Which is a rewriting of history; there was the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Cassette_Recording" target="_blank">Philips VCR format</a> first. Even then, it's all in how you define the box, since from the start of film people had been using 16 mm and 8 mm film to record home movies and play back films at home. It's always the closer you look, the more complex it is. And the more complex it is, the more formats you have to consider as contenders, the less likely the winner is to be the first one.Again, it's all in how you play with the data. What's a flash in the pan? If the Vatican had bought TSR instead of WotC buying TSR and promptly buried everything (cue music stolen from the Da Vinci Code), would a 25 year run have counted?Why? What would have stopped Gygax? And that's a very, very counterfactual argument, that goes straight to the heart of many alternate history discussions; is where we are largely inevitable, or would the slightest change change everything massively? 2) is an assumption that lacks any objective certainty, at least as much as anything I made.</blockquote>