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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6556724" data-attributes="member: 5143">True.&nbsp; But there's also a philosophy that says that you CAN overwhelm new players who walk into a store and see 15 books on the shelf and think &quot;Oh my god!&nbsp; Look at all those books!&nbsp; This game seems extremely complicated.&nbsp; Plus, I can't afford all those books.&nbsp; Maybe I'll buy something else instead.&quot;Even if all those books add no bloat to the game at all, it turns people off.Also, part of the problem in both 3e and 4e was that all of those books trained players to think of the games in terms of rules.&nbsp; When there are 100 different feats, players look at the game in terms of what feat combinations they can use to &quot;win&quot; the game.&nbsp; When there are 5, they can look at them and say &quot;Hmm, none of those appeal to me.&nbsp; I think I'll take a stat bump.&quot;I've found players roleplay more the LESS rules there are in the game.&nbsp; I could see 5e being just as annoying as 3e if too many books came out.&nbsp; It took my players a week just to increase their level in our 3e game because they needed to carefully reread all the D&amp;D books to make sure they were choosing the right options.&nbsp; My 5e players do it in 5 minutes.I honestly think that releasing information online where it can't overwhelm new players is an excellent idea.&nbsp; Have new players walk into the store and see 4 books: The core 3 and one adventure.&nbsp; Have them buy those books and have fun playing with them.&nbsp; Then, when they eventually get more and more into the game, then direct them to a website where they can find a document with new races and spells like the one that just came out.And as long as WOTC doesn't release too many of them too quickly, they won't cause the rules bloat that destroyed 3e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 6556724, member: 5143"] True. But there's also a philosophy that says that you CAN overwhelm new players who walk into a store and see 15 books on the shelf and think "Oh my god! Look at all those books! This game seems extremely complicated. Plus, I can't afford all those books. Maybe I'll buy something else instead." Even if all those books add no bloat to the game at all, it turns people off. Also, part of the problem in both 3e and 4e was that all of those books trained players to think of the games in terms of rules. When there are 100 different feats, players look at the game in terms of what feat combinations they can use to "win" the game. When there are 5, they can look at them and say "Hmm, none of those appeal to me. I think I'll take a stat bump." I've found players roleplay more the LESS rules there are in the game. I could see 5e being just as annoying as 3e if too many books came out. It took my players a week just to increase their level in our 3e game because they needed to carefully reread all the D&D books to make sure they were choosing the right options. My 5e players do it in 5 minutes. I honestly think that releasing information online where it can't overwhelm new players is an excellent idea. Have new players walk into the store and see 4 books: The core 3 and one adventure. Have them buy those books and have fun playing with them. Then, when they eventually get more and more into the game, then direct them to a website where they can find a document with new races and spells like the one that just came out. And as long as WOTC doesn't release too many of them too quickly, they won't cause the rules bloat that destroyed 3e. [/QUOTE]

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