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<blockquote data-quote="Trickster Spirit" data-source="post: 6557156" data-attributes="member: 6701829">I'd agree with that sentiment, but I honestly do think that if they'd released 5E in 2000 or 2008 instead, that we'd still have seen a new edition come out ~4-8 years later. The diminishing returns from that kind of output would have driven them to a new version sooner or later. It took two WotC editions for them to learn the lessons that resulted in 5E being the way it is today, and those two editions also taught them about how much they can reasonably expect to make in the tabletop games market. Paizo's the only big player in the industry putting out books on a monthly basis and Wizards is taking a &quot;been there, done that&quot; approach and trying something new. I love Paizo and wish them nothing but success in the future, but don't think that their current business model is sustainable. They'll either need to wean themselves off of RPG books as the product that keep the lights on (i.e. by diversifying out to card games, miniatures, board games, an MMO, etc.), or they'll need a second edition to &quot;reboot&quot; sales. Not sure how either of those outcomes will turn out.The rise of Pathfinder was the product of a perfect storm and there's nothing to indicate yet that Wizards will release 5E under the OGL. There is the possibility that a would-be Paizo could re-release 5E under the original OGL in the same manner Frog God has put out their unauthorized 5E content, but all Wizards would have to do is insert a non-compete clause in the magazine contract forbidding said third-party publisher from releasing such a game for a couple of years.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Trickster Spirit, post: 6557156, member: 6701829"] I'd agree with that sentiment, but I honestly do think that if they'd released 5E in 2000 or 2008 instead, that we'd still have seen a new edition come out ~4-8 years later. The diminishing returns from that kind of output would have driven them to a new version sooner or later. It took two WotC editions for them to learn the lessons that resulted in 5E being the way it is today, and those two editions also taught them about how much they can reasonably expect to make in the tabletop games market. Paizo's the only big player in the industry putting out books on a monthly basis and Wizards is taking a "been there, done that" approach and trying something new. I love Paizo and wish them nothing but success in the future, but don't think that their current business model is sustainable. They'll either need to wean themselves off of RPG books as the product that keep the lights on (i.e. by diversifying out to card games, miniatures, board games, an MMO, etc.), or they'll need a second edition to "reboot" sales. Not sure how either of those outcomes will turn out. The rise of Pathfinder was the product of a perfect storm and there's nothing to indicate yet that Wizards will release 5E under the OGL. There is the possibility that a would-be Paizo could re-release 5E under the original OGL in the same manner Frog God has put out their unauthorized 5E content, but all Wizards would have to do is insert a non-compete clause in the magazine contract forbidding said third-party publisher from releasing such a game for a couple of years. [/QUOTE]

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