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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Byronic" data-source="post: 4269496" data-attributes="member: 56829">In my day we did it different, we didn't always cast spider climb. We actually climbed. And we thanked God if we could use our ropes to climb because otherwise we used our God given hand and feet to climb.Why have a Rogue find your traps for you? Because we wanted our Clerics to do other things with their spells and because Clerics can't disarm traps. Even if we didn't have a Rogue we wouldn't let the Cleric use disarm traps. No we'd just get a Halfling to walk in front of us. And discern lies? We never used discern lies once. We just found a dark alley and beat the living crap out of him until he hurt too badly to lie. Have a man scream in a bad part of town and after five min he'll tell you everything.</blockquote>