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<blockquote data-quote="Gorrstagg" data-source="post: 2225888" data-attributes="member: 15863"><p>Heya Steel Wind,</p><p></p><p>I did watch the IGN videos, and I also have read how they discuss the "Twitch" concerns your presenting.</p><p></p><p>You will not have unlimited speed to move away, that is something they have a lot of adjustability on. You will not automatically get away. This move and avoid an attack is ... just like D&D.. move out of the way.. don't stand there and get hit over and over again. Which if you've played any other MMO'.. they give this really large attack range for mobs, and as you run away, they can still hit you.. and hit you.. and hit you.</p><p></p><p>But.. here.. they are giving you the ability to have your movement mean something. But.. they have server side redundancies built in. With an upto a full second of correction on the part of the mobs. So that way, it can react more closely to what YOU do. If it swings, and your not there, that animation isn't gone through ... and the monster will move on after you. Until it can hit you. Sure you can try to dodge.. but..</p><p></p><p>These guys aren't new to the MMO scene bud. They've actually got 2 live games going on right now. AC 1 & 2. (Which was initially one of my concerns about Turbine getting the game. But now.. I'm happy they did.)</p><p></p><p>Here's my question to you Steelwind. How is this game more twitch like than any other MMO out on the market? Just because you can run, and quick turn and shoot.. the game doesn't automatically assume you hit. It actually then applies modifiers and rolls a d20 to see if you actually hit.. and did damage.</p><p></p><p>My point.. they decided that they couldn't effectively and realistically have people stand around for 6 seconds of real time, so you can resolve your "Action". To do that would be ... a turn based game. And they wanted to make the game flow more enjoyably. That is, remove 6 second rounds. Present it in real time. But the game.. isn't going to be about how good everyone is against everyone else. In short.. it doesn't matter. Your not competing against anyone but yourself. And if you don't think you've got the skills to move around.. well maybe you don't. Maybe you would feel more comfortable, just moving up and hitting the attack button. And there is nothing stopping you from doing this. The point.. they are trying to make the game more interactive. Instead of someone moving around with one hand, while eating cheesy poofs with another. They've stated as much with the concept of in other MMO's you can just stop somewhere and go make a sandwich, in other MMO's and not have to worry about it. Here.. your going to be in an adventure that ... reacts to you as well. Fun fun!</p><p></p><p>If you think this "Twitch" action where you actually ... you know do something other than stand around after pressing attack, Well then honestly. This game isn't going to be for you. For whatever reason, you don't think live action play is going to be good. That's on you bro. And no one can convince you otherwise. But.. they aren't making this game for the typical MMO'er.. they are making it for D&D players. And want us to think on our feet.. to not get into the typical rut of ... killing something for 5 hours.. to level up.</p><p></p><p>I am very happy to see them realize this. Oh.. and don't forget this part.. they have David Eckelberry working on the game with them.. almost all of their staff are old D&D players.. and WOTC have approved everything that is going on in the game. So.. I guess it's an official product. Like it or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes.. and it was potentially innovative there when it was mentioned.. but the focus of that game.. is PvP. The focus of this game.. is.. *drum roll*</p><p></p><p>Playing D&D with your friends online. And the normal gaming session doesn't devolve down to, multiple gaming groups suddenly meeting each other and fighting it out.. it's simply.. about the adventure.</p><p></p><p>I personally think it is cool that they went with the smaller more personal focus on the game, and are backing it up with the graphics and artwork to boot. I think Guild Wars looks like poo. Does our personal esthetical concerns really matter? Not a whole lot between you and I.</p><p></p><p>Just one last note.. as far as Twitch play is concerned. This game isn't Half-life, or Doom or Unreal Tournament. Those are twitch games. This game.. just uses real time action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gorrstagg, post: 2225888, member: 15863"] Heya Steel Wind, I did watch the IGN videos, and I also have read how they discuss the "Twitch" concerns your presenting. You will not have unlimited speed to move away, that is something they have a lot of adjustability on. You will not automatically get away. This move and avoid an attack is ... just like D&D.. move out of the way.. don't stand there and get hit over and over again. Which if you've played any other MMO'.. they give this really large attack range for mobs, and as you run away, they can still hit you.. and hit you.. and hit you. But.. here.. they are giving you the ability to have your movement mean something. But.. they have server side redundancies built in. With an upto a full second of correction on the part of the mobs. So that way, it can react more closely to what YOU do. If it swings, and your not there, that animation isn't gone through ... and the monster will move on after you. Until it can hit you. Sure you can try to dodge.. but.. These guys aren't new to the MMO scene bud. They've actually got 2 live games going on right now. AC 1 & 2. (Which was initially one of my concerns about Turbine getting the game. But now.. I'm happy they did.) Here's my question to you Steelwind. How is this game more twitch like than any other MMO out on the market? Just because you can run, and quick turn and shoot.. the game doesn't automatically assume you hit. It actually then applies modifiers and rolls a d20 to see if you actually hit.. and did damage. My point.. they decided that they couldn't effectively and realistically have people stand around for 6 seconds of real time, so you can resolve your "Action". To do that would be ... a turn based game. And they wanted to make the game flow more enjoyably. That is, remove 6 second rounds. Present it in real time. But the game.. isn't going to be about how good everyone is against everyone else. In short.. it doesn't matter. Your not competing against anyone but yourself. And if you don't think you've got the skills to move around.. well maybe you don't. Maybe you would feel more comfortable, just moving up and hitting the attack button. And there is nothing stopping you from doing this. The point.. they are trying to make the game more interactive. Instead of someone moving around with one hand, while eating cheesy poofs with another. They've stated as much with the concept of in other MMO's you can just stop somewhere and go make a sandwich, in other MMO's and not have to worry about it. Here.. your going to be in an adventure that ... reacts to you as well. Fun fun! If you think this "Twitch" action where you actually ... you know do something other than stand around after pressing attack, Well then honestly. This game isn't going to be for you. For whatever reason, you don't think live action play is going to be good. That's on you bro. And no one can convince you otherwise. But.. they aren't making this game for the typical MMO'er.. they are making it for D&D players. And want us to think on our feet.. to not get into the typical rut of ... killing something for 5 hours.. to level up. I am very happy to see them realize this. Oh.. and don't forget this part.. they have David Eckelberry working on the game with them.. almost all of their staff are old D&D players.. and WOTC have approved everything that is going on in the game. So.. I guess it's an official product. Like it or not. Yes.. and it was potentially innovative there when it was mentioned.. but the focus of that game.. is PvP. The focus of this game.. is.. *drum roll* Playing D&D with your friends online. And the normal gaming session doesn't devolve down to, multiple gaming groups suddenly meeting each other and fighting it out.. it's simply.. about the adventure. I personally think it is cool that they went with the smaller more personal focus on the game, and are backing it up with the graphics and artwork to boot. I think Guild Wars looks like poo. Does our personal esthetical concerns really matter? Not a whole lot between you and I. Just one last note.. as far as Twitch play is concerned. This game isn't Half-life, or Doom or Unreal Tournament. Those are twitch games. This game.. just uses real time action. [/QUOTE]
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