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<blockquote data-quote="theredrobedwizard" data-source="post: 3689173" data-attributes="member: 21340">Forgot to add:&nbsp; Playing a socially adept character doesn't preclude combat effectiveness.&nbsp; So long as you're adding something (flanking bonuses, buffing colleagues, battlefield control), everything is gravy.&nbsp; If you're just standing around, hiding, not contributing at all...Recently, I played a 6th level character with a BAB of +2 and a Strength score of 8.&nbsp; My Diplomacy was +38, Bluff was somewhere in the high +20s.&nbsp; I was ludicrously effective outside of combat and while in combat my various Auras and competence bonuses boosted the party well.It's all about being a good team player and knowing how to minimize the threat to your party.In the Changeling Rogue/Wizard example, even if his barred schools were Evocation, Conjuration, and Necromancy [I think there's a changeling racial sub-level that makes you give up another school] he can still be a very effective party member inside combat with Illusory battlefield control as well as the ability to turn into a Hell Hound [Shape of the Hell Spawned Stalker, SC].&nbsp; Two more Wizard levels and he gets Polymorph and can turn into a Behir, Annis, or Rukanyr (Fiend Folio).-TRRW</blockquote>

[QUOTE="theredrobedwizard, post: 3689173, member: 21340"] Forgot to add: Playing a socially adept character doesn't preclude combat effectiveness. So long as you're adding something (flanking bonuses, buffing colleagues, battlefield control), everything is gravy. If you're just standing around, hiding, not contributing at all... Recently, I played a 6th level character with a BAB of +2 and a Strength score of 8. My Diplomacy was +38, Bluff was somewhere in the high +20s. I was ludicrously effective outside of combat and while in combat my various Auras and competence bonuses boosted the party well. It's all about being a good team player and knowing how to minimize the threat to your party. In the Changeling Rogue/Wizard example, even if his barred schools were Evocation, Conjuration, and Necromancy [I think there's a changeling racial sub-level that makes you give up another school] he can still be a very effective party member inside combat with Illusory battlefield control as well as the ability to turn into a Hell Hound [Shape of the Hell Spawned Stalker, SC]. Two more Wizard levels and he gets Polymorph and can turn into a Behir, Annis, or Rukanyr (Fiend Folio). -TRRW [/QUOTE]

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