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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5772756" data-attributes="member: 22424">WotC already pretty much have that data, through the DDI. According to Klaus over on Circvs Maximvs, Humans are by far the most played race, followed by Elves and the Dwarves. He doesn't go beyond that, save to note that those are the overwhelming favourites.However, I (mostly) agree with you: the game should include Humans, Elves, Dwarves and Halflings regardless; if it goes beyond the 'classic 4' in the Core, then it should base those selected purely on actual popularity.That point, in isolation, does. In a perfect world, the PHB would have enough room for dozens of fully-detailed classes.However, if the choice is "twenty bare-bones classes" or "eight fully-detailed" classes, then my preference is the latter - I want to be able to play "Core Rules Only" without feeling overly limited. I want "less, done well" rather than "more sketched out". YMMV, of course. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I've re-grouped these two paragraphs, as I think they go together. I think there's certainly a lot of truth in your assertion of the weakness of some of the archetypes. Conversely, I would note that while there are relatively few people playing, say, Runepriests, I think it's a good bet that for someone out there, the class was a revelation, was what they didn't know they always wanted, and instantly became their new favourite. Does that person not deserve support?They're two sides to the same coin. I did see plenty of people demanding more support for the 'minor' classes in 4e. But, due to cruel economics, they rarely got it. And so, to get decent support for their chosen classes, they had to gather together every little scrap of support they got.It's tricky. I wouldn't really want to be in WotC's current position, since they can't please everyone. If they do decide to go with "lots of bare-bones classes", I'll certainly understand them taking that choice. It's just not my preferred way forward.</blockquote>

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