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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6655863" data-attributes="member: 15700">Setting aside that you're completely ignoring how every class ends up just making ability checks because resources like spells aren't unlimited (even if you had the right spell or ability available), when you start throwing around terms like &quot;mother may I&quot;, I immediately stop listening.&nbsp; Every time discussions start throwing around terms like that, it never ends well, because the person using it typically bases their argument on the assumption that DMs are these power hungry bad people who love to lord their power over the players--like a child asking permission of a parent to do anything (hence the phrase), and therefore unless a PC has a specific power/spell/ability to overrule the DM with a hard rule, they might as well not even attempt it.&nbsp; I can't tell you strongly enough how messed up that premise is.&nbsp; If that's the typical DM you play with, I truly am sorry for you.&nbsp; But the overwhelming number of DMs I've played with over the past 35 years have been pretty reasonable and understand the game is there for everyone's fun, and &quot;mother may I&quot; doesn't even exist.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6655863, member: 15700"] Setting aside that you're completely ignoring how [i]every[/i] class ends up just making ability checks because resources like spells aren't unlimited (even if you had the right spell or ability available), when you start throwing around terms like "mother may I", I immediately stop listening. Every time discussions start throwing around terms like that, it never ends well, because the person using it typically bases their argument on the assumption that DMs are these power hungry bad people who love to lord their power over the players--like a child asking permission of a parent to do anything (hence the phrase), and therefore unless a PC has a specific power/spell/ability [i]to overrule the DM with a hard rule[/i], they might as well not even attempt it. I can't tell you strongly enough how messed up that premise is. If that's the typical DM you play with, I truly am sorry for you. But the [i]overwhelming[/i] number of DMs I've played with over the past 35 years have been pretty reasonable and understand the game is there for everyone's fun, and "mother may I" doesn't even exist. [/QUOTE]

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