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<blockquote data-quote="Mephista" data-source="post: 6656683" data-attributes="member: 6786252"><p>The one thing I think the Thief really needs to shine is more throwable objects. Like, we caltrops that scale effectively, setting up tripwires in combat, etc. Stuff like that should be open to the Thief with their Cunning Action. A walking Trap Master!</p><p></p><p></p><p>That said... what exactly is missing from the Fighter when it comes to social that no one else gets? Obviously, there's Expertise. But, putting aside that, what is there that, say, a sorcerer or paladin would get in the social arena that no one else would? Even Charm Person is just good for getting advantage, which is easy to get via Help action. Disguise self is fairly redundant in the face of a disguise kit - the former may be faster, but also uses up a spell slot (or invocation slot). There aren't a lot of spells that easily replace an Insight check. Magic really doesn't seem to be a dominant force in the social arena. </p><p></p><p></p><p>So, other than Expertise, what exactly is stopping a Fighter from being just as good a socialite as anyone else?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mephista, post: 6656683, member: 6786252"] The one thing I think the Thief really needs to shine is more throwable objects. Like, we caltrops that scale effectively, setting up tripwires in combat, etc. Stuff like that should be open to the Thief with their Cunning Action. A walking Trap Master! That said... what exactly is missing from the Fighter when it comes to social that no one else gets? Obviously, there's Expertise. But, putting aside that, what is there that, say, a sorcerer or paladin would get in the social arena that no one else would? Even Charm Person is just good for getting advantage, which is easy to get via Help action. Disguise self is fairly redundant in the face of a disguise kit - the former may be faster, but also uses up a spell slot (or invocation slot). There aren't a lot of spells that easily replace an Insight check. Magic really doesn't seem to be a dominant force in the social arena. So, other than Expertise, what exactly is stopping a Fighter from being just as good a socialite as anyone else? [/QUOTE]
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