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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6658503" data-attributes="member: 15700">My distaste for &quot;mother may I&quot; isn't the &quot;have a discussion with the DM&quot; bit, it's the words use itself.&nbsp; The analogy to a kid asking a parent for permission.&nbsp; It's condescending and belittling of those people who chose to prefer rulings over rules.&nbsp; And it's a huge red flag to me that someone who uses it has no interest in having a discussion on the topic anyway, and therefore there is no point in continuing the conversation.&nbsp; It's like when people use &quot;gun fondler&quot; or &quot;anti-life&quot;.To your point, if a player asked me that in 1e, I'd explain that the way AC and HP work, all of that is already rolled up into the general mechanic.&nbsp; And I'd probably ask how their PC is attacking differently than what a normal attack would be.&nbsp; Because in my mind's eye, I can't see the difference.&quot;I'm going to hit the plate mail they are wearing as hard as I can, but I don't want to actually do any damage to the person wearing it.&nbsp; I just want to hurt the armor.&quot;&quot;Uh....you're hitting as hard as you can anyway with regular attacks, right?&nbsp; How do you expect to put a massive dent in the armor without hurting the person wearing it?&quot;&nbsp;If they can come up with a reasonable explanation that I haven't thought of, then I would go from there.&nbsp; No reasonable request should ever be unreasonably denied.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6658503, member: 15700"] My distaste for "mother may I" isn't the "have a discussion with the DM" bit, it's the words use itself. The analogy to a kid asking a parent for permission. It's condescending and belittling of those people who chose to prefer rulings over rules. And it's a huge red flag to me that someone who uses it has no interest in having a discussion on the topic anyway, and therefore there is no point in continuing the conversation. It's like when people use "gun fondler" or "anti-life". To your point, if a player asked me that in 1e, I'd explain that the way AC and HP work, all of that is already rolled up into the general mechanic. And I'd probably ask how their PC is attacking differently than what a normal attack would be. Because in my mind's eye, I can't see the difference. "I'm going to hit the plate mail they are wearing as hard as I can, but I don't want to actually do any damage to the person wearing it. I just want to hurt the armor." "Uh....you're hitting as hard as you can anyway with regular attacks, right? How do you expect to put a massive dent in the armor without hurting the person wearing it?" If they can come up with a reasonable explanation that I haven't thought of, then I would go from there. No reasonable request should ever be unreasonably denied. [/QUOTE]

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