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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MechaPilot" data-source="post: 6658554" data-attributes="member: 82779">If I were to adjudicate it, I would not apply a penalty to hit; a hit would be a hit, but the extra effect would only be applied if the player hit by five or more.  However, reasonable DMs can disagree about how to adjudicate things, and (depending on the degree of the penalty to the to hit roll you would apply) I think your way is also reasonable if a little more strict than my way.I am pointing out that there is some real accuracy to the comparison, not advocating that the phrase should be used. As I said, I can see how some find it offensive; generally speaking, I don't believe in offending people.</blockquote>