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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashkelon" data-source="post: 6664413" data-attributes="member: 6774887">The way to find reasonable people in an argument is to find those who are willing to compromise. I would love if there was an option for a "complex" fighter with mythic capabilities. Call it some other name for all I care, I merely want a non magical martial warrior with no daily abilities that isn't boring or repetitive.  We already have a boring basic attack spamming fighter for those who prefer that style of fighter. There should be no reason to argue against such a fighter. It would be like me saying Vancian spellcasting should not exist because I find the mechanic distasteful and disassociative. Sure, that is my opinion about Vancian spellcasting, but I don't argue for its complete removal from the game merely because I don't like it.</blockquote>