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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6664606" data-attributes="member: 48965">There has to be a trade off at a certain point, I mean this is like complaining the wizard's weapons or the cleric's weapons are limited... and his lack of armor proficiency is part of his mythical/mystical (not sure which is being argued for anymore) nature, he doesn't need armor...  Yes the monk's weapons are limited but it does include shortswords... and the class kind of gives explicit permission to reskin weapons... so why couldn't you create a ki swordsman?  Again this seems to be a parallel to the ranger vs. fighter archer arguments around 4e... only for some reason now those who thought that was perfectly viable don't find the monk viable as a substitute...</blockquote>