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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6664893" data-attributes="member: 48965">Wait so is Precision Strike amazing?&nbsp; Or is Precision Strike+GWM (a feat that has been labeled as vastly overpowered when combined with a way to neutralize the penalty...i.e. Precise Strike) amazing?&nbsp;&nbsp; I think I'm starting to see why this character was boring throughout numerous levels and why you rarely used other maneuvers.No the best options are not all about dealing damage... Menacing inflicts a condition... Trip inflicts a condition... Disarming Strike takes an opponents weapon away.&nbsp; You've narrowly focused your character to deal massive DPR using one-trick, that's why it may seem that way to you.&nbsp; So everything literally went to combat prowess...I disagree, maxing strength and taking GWM is not &quot;necessary&quot; for a fighter to be adept at dealing damage, it's way beyond just being adept.&nbsp; What I'm seeing here is that you used an arguably broken combo to create a beyond optimized one-trick pony (which explains why fliers and reach were such a problem for you) to dominate in combat by using GWM and Precision Strike (to offset the penalty)... Dude this is a beyond optimized, totally combat focused character... and focused mainly on DPR... this is exactly what I called out earlier in the thread... I guess I also see why the Champion wouldn't work, because he can't neutralize the penalty.Ok you don't have to be the best to be effective and/or contribute.&nbsp; I can't believe all of your scores except Strength were so low that skill proficiency wouldn't have mattered for any of them... and even so skill proficiency would have at leats giving you a chance at the range of very easy to hard DC's.&nbsp; I mean it's possible your scores were that low if you rolled but that's not the fighter class being designed badly, that's you having some really bad rolls.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 6664893, member: 48965"] Wait so is Precision Strike amazing? Or is Precision Strike+GWM (a feat that has been labeled as vastly overpowered when combined with a way to neutralize the penalty...i.e. Precise Strike) amazing? I think I'm starting to see why this character was boring throughout numerous levels and why you rarely used other maneuvers. No the best options are not all about dealing damage... Menacing inflicts a condition... Trip inflicts a condition... Disarming Strike takes an opponents weapon away. You've narrowly focused your character to deal massive DPR using one-trick, that's why it may seem that way to you. So everything literally went to combat prowess... I disagree, maxing strength and taking GWM is not "necessary" for a fighter to be adept at dealing damage, it's way beyond just being adept. What I'm seeing here is that you used an arguably broken combo to create a beyond optimized one-trick pony (which explains why fliers and reach were such a problem for you) to dominate in combat by using GWM and Precision Strike (to offset the penalty)... Dude this is a beyond optimized, totally combat focused character... and focused mainly on DPR... this is exactly what I called out earlier in the thread... I guess I also see why the Champion wouldn't work, because he can't neutralize the penalty. Ok you don't have to be the best to be effective and/or contribute. I can't believe all of your scores except Strength were so low that skill proficiency wouldn't have mattered for any of them... and even so skill proficiency would have at leats giving you a chance at the range of very easy to hard DC's. I mean it's possible your scores were that low if you rolled but that's not the fighter class being designed badly, that's you having some really bad rolls. [/QUOTE]

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