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<blockquote data-quote="Ashkelon" data-source="post: 6665073" data-attributes="member: 6774887"><p>See, all the examples you described don't show those skills contributing to the success of a non combat encounter though. Sure, you are rewarding players who chose less useful skills, but your examples are proving my earlier point, that those skills are not necessary for the resolution of a social or exploration encounter. Unlike some other skills, a party can get by just fine without anyone taking those skills. That is fine, not all skills can be created equal. And it is good if a DM rewards players for taking less useful skills. But the core issue with those skills remains. The DM could have thrown all the History nerds into his game that I could handle, and my characters proficiency in history still wouldn't have done a whole lot to progress the story. </p><p></p><p>Also, due to bounded accuracy, skill proficiency has a much smaller impact for those skills. Unless the DM says only the person with proficiency gets to roll, my 10 Int fighter with proficiency in History isn't really going to be all that much better than the 14 Int elven Druid in our party. For example, at level 8, I am +1 better at history checks than the Druid.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ashkelon, post: 6665073, member: 6774887"] See, all the examples you described don't show those skills contributing to the success of a non combat encounter though. Sure, you are rewarding players who chose less useful skills, but your examples are proving my earlier point, that those skills are not necessary for the resolution of a social or exploration encounter. Unlike some other skills, a party can get by just fine without anyone taking those skills. That is fine, not all skills can be created equal. And it is good if a DM rewards players for taking less useful skills. But the core issue with those skills remains. The DM could have thrown all the History nerds into his game that I could handle, and my characters proficiency in history still wouldn't have done a whole lot to progress the story. Also, due to bounded accuracy, skill proficiency has a much smaller impact for those skills. Unless the DM says only the person with proficiency gets to roll, my 10 Int fighter with proficiency in History isn't really going to be all that much better than the 14 Int elven Druid in our party. For example, at level 8, I am +1 better at history checks than the Druid. [/QUOTE]
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