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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashkelon" data-source="post: 6665108" data-attributes="member: 6774887">Everything you said with animal handling was primarily RP related and wouldn't have been bad for the party if they had no-one with that skill. Besides, we had a Druid, handling animals was not a problem without anyone having that skill. Everything you said with history also seems to be covered by a straight Int check, and also doesn't seem to be needed for the advancing the story. Everything you described with performance is better covered by persuasion and deception...As for skills that advance the story, I'm talking about obstacles that need to be overcome or create a setback for failure. A massive Boulder in the path that would cause significant delay if you had to take another path. A 30 foot chasm. A duke who you must negotiate with. Survival in an alien environment. Sneaking past a group of guards to steal something. Skills that if nobody can do them (or no one has spells or class abilities to replicate the skill) then your group will suffer a major setback. In play, I have found skills like Perception, Stealth, Persuasion, Deception, Survival, and Insight to have the greatest impact or be the most frequently used.P.S. You are right about bounded accuracy cutting both ways, but if you had been paying attention (which you clearly have not), you would notice that I never said my lack of skill meant I could not contribute to a situation. I could contribute just fine, but no more. If I beat someone else at the table at a particular task, it was because my roll was exceptionally good, not because of any feature of the fighter. There was never really any spotlight balance. There was never a time where the party was like "wow, I'm sure glad we have a fighter along to help us overcome this noncombat challenge".  Sure, I was capable, but I there was always some party member better than me at any particular skill (except history). I never felt exceptional nor like a paragon of physical capability that you would expect the fighter to be. I also said I had fun RPing the character and trying to be the party face even though the bard and warlock both had much better bonuses to their social skills than I did. It merely would have been nice if there was a particular area that was the fighters...expertise</blockquote>

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