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<blockquote data-quote="tyrlaan" data-source="post: 6665580" data-attributes="member: 20998">Speaking from the complaint that the fighter is lacking in distinct non-combat options...1: Parry&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat2: Trip&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat3: Riposte&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat4: Commander's Strike&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat5: Rally&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat6: Feinting Attack&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat7: Evasive Footwork&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat8: 6d8 Superiority Dice (Martial Initiate)&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat9: Magic Initiate: (Blade Ward, Eldritch Blast, Armour of Agathys)&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat, could have been non-combat though, but everyone has feat access so not distinct10: Duel Wield longswords (Duel Wielder)&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat11: Criminal Background: (I can Sneak, Pick locks, disarm traps, and deceive 18 Dex &amp; 16 Cha)&nbsp; --&nbsp; non-com, but everyone has access to the background so not distinct12: Drow abilities: Superior Darkvision, Dancing Lights, Darkness, and Faerie Fire. --&nbsp; mix, but race is not tied to fighter so not distinct13: 3 attacks&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat14: Student of War&nbsp; --&nbsp; combat15: Know your Enemy&nbsp; --&nbsp; combatI realize of course that these are the choices you elected to take, but it serves to demonstrate the point nonetheless that the fighter is lacking in distinct non-combat options. I also realize that there are other gripes being levied against the fighter, but I'm not addressing those here (nor am I personally sure I prescribe to those gripes, but I understand the points).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tyrlaan, post: 6665580, member: 20998"] Speaking from the complaint that the fighter is lacking in distinct non-combat options... 1: Parry -- combat 2: Trip -- combat 3: Riposte -- combat 4: Commander's Strike -- combat 5: Rally -- combat 6: Feinting Attack -- combat 7: Evasive Footwork -- combat 8: 6d8 Superiority Dice (Martial Initiate) -- combat 9: Magic Initiate: (Blade Ward, Eldritch Blast, Armour of Agathys) -- combat, could have been non-combat though, but everyone has feat access so not distinct 10: Duel Wield longswords (Duel Wielder) -- combat 11: Criminal Background: (I can Sneak, Pick locks, disarm traps, and deceive 18 Dex & 16 Cha) -- non-com, but everyone has access to the background so not distinct 12: Drow abilities: Superior Darkvision, Dancing Lights, Darkness, and Faerie Fire. -- mix, but race is not tied to fighter so not distinct 13: 3 attacks -- combat 14: Student of War -- combat 15: Know your Enemy -- combat I realize of course that these are the choices you elected to take, but it serves to demonstrate the point nonetheless that the fighter is lacking in distinct non-combat options. I also realize that there are other gripes being levied against the fighter, but I'm not addressing those here (nor am I personally sure I prescribe to those gripes, but I understand the points). [/QUOTE]

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