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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashkelon" data-source="post: 6666825" data-attributes="member: 6774887">Yeah, I realized I didn't really answer the question because it is basically impossible to answer in any satisfactory way. Sure, in an ideal world a class that is 10 Combat, 7 Social, 7 exploration would be balanced against a class that is 8/8/8. The issue is, there is no good way to measure classes to that level of detail. We can't really say the fighter is 10% better at combat so should be 10% worse outside of combat. Then you have issues where something like combat typically takes up around 50% of the playtime at any given table while social and interaction combined make up the other 50%. Of course, there are also tables where combat only ever rarely happens and interaction and exploration take up the majority of the time.The best I can do is say that I want all classes to have some class based capabilities that allow them to contribute above the baseline in specific noncombat situations. Much like combat, there would be a spectrum of balance and capabilities. There isn't every going to be the type of partity you are asking about. There isn't really a way you can make a Strength based warrior even 75% equal in utility to the likes of a spellcaster or rogue. You can however give them unique non combat abilities that fit in with the theme of a mythic warrior. For a strength based martial warrior, these abilities might be advantage on STR checks, proficiency with STR and CON checks, expertise with Athletics checks, the ability to jump 2x as far as normal, the ability to make high jumps the same distance as your long jumps, the ability to lift 2-10x as much as normal, the ability to climb or swim without needed to make a check (climb and swim speeds), the ability to break stone with your bare hands, etc. Even with all of that, I wouldn't say the non-combat contribution of the martial warrior would come close to matching what a rogue or spellcaster are capable of, but they are flavorful and thematic abilities that could be useful every now and again.</blockquote>

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