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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6668660" data-attributes="member: 2067">I am comparing the two going nova. A level 5 battlemaster can do more impressive things than crack the shell, more often, and in more contexts. Given that Crack the Shell is a level 5 daily, the presumption is that this is the most powerful nova that a level 5 fighter is capable of - double damage plus a -2 AC and ongoing 5 damage for one attack. A 5e battlemaster puts that to shame - they can do MORE damage and impose BIGGER penalties in the same amount of time (&quot;one round&quot;), and can adapt to the situation they face on the fly better (vs. one big enemy, they can stack multiple effects; against a group, they can spread it around in an area). That is both more powerful and more flexible than using crack the shell.Over the course of many combats, and at the level of character build, a 4e fighter might have the edge on versatility, having more powers, but I'd need to see some evidence for that...I'm not sure that it's true out of the gate.The 400 possible powers are mostly irrelevant - I'm talking about how the fighter operates at the table, not about theorycrafting builds. Right: a 5e battlemaster is more powerful by design, so a direct port of Crack the Shell might be underwhelming. Like I said, the 5e battlemaster might be different, but it's definitely not weaker.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6668660, member: 2067"] I am comparing the two going nova. A level 5 battlemaster can do more impressive things than [I]crack the shell[/I], more often, and in more contexts. Given that [I]Crack the Shell[/I] is a level 5 daily, the presumption is that this is the most powerful nova that a level 5 fighter is capable of - double damage plus a -2 AC and ongoing 5 damage for one attack. A 5e battlemaster puts that to shame - they can do MORE damage and impose BIGGER penalties in the same amount of time ("one round"), and can adapt to the situation they face on the fly better (vs. one big enemy, they can stack multiple effects; against a group, they can spread it around in an area). That is both more powerful and more flexible than using [I]crack the shell[/I]. Over the course of many combats, and at the level of character build, a 4e fighter might have the edge on versatility, having more powers, but I'd need to see some evidence for that...I'm not sure that it's true out of the gate. The 400 possible powers are mostly irrelevant - I'm talking about how the fighter operates at the table, not about theorycrafting builds. Right: a 5e battlemaster is more powerful by design, so a direct port of [I]Crack the Shell[/I] might be underwhelming. Like I said, the 5e battlemaster might be [I]different[/I], but it's definitely not [I]weaker[/I]. [/QUOTE]

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