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<blockquote data-quote="Kraydak" data-source="post: 3830712" data-attributes="member: 12306">If you want your business to grow maximally, invest maximally.&nbsp; If you don't, don't.&nbsp; You can choose not to invest in magic items.&nbsp; It will hurt your adventuring power.&nbsp; I don't see the problem here...&nbsp; You will adventure against lower CR opponents, raising the GP/XP ratio and climb back up if your gear falls too far below spec.The only decent alternative to having wealth/level guidelines is to not have any relevant gear.&nbsp; This isn't genre appropriate.&nbsp; It isn't an historically market dominating design philosophy.There are non-loot centric open-ended RPGs out there.&nbsp; DnD crushes them beneath its +5 booted heel, market share wise.&nbsp; I'm pretty sure there are non loot-centric MMORPGs out there.&nbsp; WoW crushes them beneath its purple heel.&nbsp; I find the arguement that DnD should give up its loot-centric design to be absurd.&nbsp; It works.&nbsp; It dominates markets.&nbsp; What more does a game designer who wants his game to be a commercial success need?(all of this is seperate from the issue of a gold&lt;-&gt;item market, which helps preserve realism and provides actual value to gold.&nbsp; without such a market, gold *would* become utterly meaningless at high levels, even in a game without magic items, but with DnD's power structure)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kraydak, post: 3830712, member: 12306"] If you want your business to grow maximally, invest maximally. If you don't, don't. You can choose not to invest in magic items. It will hurt your adventuring power. I don't see the problem here... You will adventure against lower CR opponents, raising the GP/XP ratio and climb back up if your gear falls too far below spec. The only decent alternative to having wealth/level guidelines is to not have any relevant gear. This isn't genre appropriate. It isn't an historically market dominating design philosophy. There are non-loot centric open-ended RPGs out there. DnD crushes them beneath its +5 booted heel, market share wise. I'm pretty sure there are non loot-centric MMORPGs out there. WoW crushes them beneath its purple heel. I find the arguement that DnD should give up its loot-centric design to be absurd. It works. It dominates markets. What more does a game designer who wants his game to be a commercial success need? (all of this is seperate from the issue of a gold<->item market, which helps preserve realism and provides actual value to gold. without such a market, gold *would* become utterly meaningless at high levels, even in a game without magic items, but with DnD's power structure) [/QUOTE]

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