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<blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 3833910" data-attributes="member: 18549">Because he's a butt-kicker.&nbsp; He's playing the game so he can kill stuff.&nbsp; That's the definition of the butt-kicker.&nbsp; Killing stuff is an end in itself.&nbsp; He keeps buying better gear so he can kill stronger enemies.&nbsp; Being more powerful is an end in itself.&nbsp; He is rewarded by getting a kick-ass sword, and then rewarded again by using that sword to kick butt.Butt kickers like to level up, and they like to get new gear.&nbsp; It's a style of play, and one that 3.x supports very, very well.&nbsp; However, if we want 4E to support other styles, it should not just abandon this style in order to do so.Yeah they do.&nbsp; What the heck do you think &quot;extreme sports&quot; is about?&nbsp; People jump out of airplanes in order to have jumped out of airplanes.&nbsp; They climb mountains in order to have climbed mountains.&nbsp; They jump motorcycles over flaming buses, sometimes.&nbsp; That people die doing these things only makes them more attractive.&nbsp; It's reasonable to think that a proportion of the adventurer population are in it for the adrenaline.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lonely Tylenol, post: 3833910, member: 18549"] Because he's a butt-kicker. He's playing the game so he can kill stuff. That's the definition of the butt-kicker. Killing stuff is an end in itself. He keeps buying better gear so he can kill stronger enemies. Being more powerful is an end in itself. He is rewarded by getting a kick-ass sword, and then rewarded again by using that sword to kick butt. Butt kickers like to level up, and they like to get new gear. It's a style of play, and one that 3.x supports very, very well. However, if we want 4E to support other styles, it should not just abandon this style in order to do so. Yeah they do. What the heck do you think "extreme sports" is about? People jump out of airplanes in order to have jumped out of airplanes. They climb mountains in order to have climbed mountains. They jump motorcycles over flaming buses, sometimes. That people die doing these things only makes them more attractive. It's reasonable to think that a proportion of the adventurer population are in it for the adrenaline. [/QUOTE]

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