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<blockquote data-quote="Toric_Arthendain" data-source="post: 7407698" data-attributes="member: 9833"><p>I'm not sure where the idea that the ability to swim is a class ability of the Ranger is coming from. Looking through my Players Handbook, that does not appear in the class ability list of the Ranger. Now I'm looking at a 6th printing Players Handbook so maybe that changed in the 7th? But these printings haven't changed much since the 1st so I'm doubting that is the case. Class abilities are Combat Marauder, Conceal, Delay/Neutralize Poison, Move Silently, Scale, Traps, Survival, Track and Favored Enemy. I've even scanned the text of the class and see no mention of swimming. And the Survival class ability doesn't mention swimming either.</p><p></p><p>Regarding racial animosity, this is certainly a shout out to the same information in the 1e AD&D Players Handbook. Beyond that, I think the book points out generalities with regards to the relations between the different races and I don't read it as written in stone (dwarves hate orcs generally but some might be willing to give a half orc a chance however grudgingly). In fact, for half orcs it mentions that they often join adventuring parties because those sorts of people are often outcasts or ostracized themselves in some way. Dwarves are mentioned as having a hatred of goblinoids due to years of conflict and they do get a penalty to Charisma rolls when dealing with orcs and half orcs but I'm not seeing anything that explicitly says they can't adventure with half orcs. Certainly you can take all of the generalities mentioned in the racial writeups and apply them to your campaign if you wish but I believe most settings are a bit more nuanced than that. Sure MOST dwarves probably are gonna be unfriendly at best to a half orc but there are exceptions. If I have a dwarf and a half orc in a party that I am DMing, I don't enforce any implied racial hatreds on the two players. That's up to them to decide through play. If a half orc walks into a dwarven city, sure, he's gonna have a tough time, until such a time as he can somehow prove himself to the dwarves. But in a player character party of mixed classes and races, those sorts of things are best left to the players to decide.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Toric_Arthendain, post: 7407698, member: 9833"] I'm not sure where the idea that the ability to swim is a class ability of the Ranger is coming from. Looking through my Players Handbook, that does not appear in the class ability list of the Ranger. Now I'm looking at a 6th printing Players Handbook so maybe that changed in the 7th? But these printings haven't changed much since the 1st so I'm doubting that is the case. Class abilities are Combat Marauder, Conceal, Delay/Neutralize Poison, Move Silently, Scale, Traps, Survival, Track and Favored Enemy. I've even scanned the text of the class and see no mention of swimming. And the Survival class ability doesn't mention swimming either. Regarding racial animosity, this is certainly a shout out to the same information in the 1e AD&D Players Handbook. Beyond that, I think the book points out generalities with regards to the relations between the different races and I don't read it as written in stone (dwarves hate orcs generally but some might be willing to give a half orc a chance however grudgingly). In fact, for half orcs it mentions that they often join adventuring parties because those sorts of people are often outcasts or ostracized themselves in some way. Dwarves are mentioned as having a hatred of goblinoids due to years of conflict and they do get a penalty to Charisma rolls when dealing with orcs and half orcs but I'm not seeing anything that explicitly says they can't adventure with half orcs. Certainly you can take all of the generalities mentioned in the racial writeups and apply them to your campaign if you wish but I believe most settings are a bit more nuanced than that. Sure MOST dwarves probably are gonna be unfriendly at best to a half orc but there are exceptions. If I have a dwarf and a half orc in a party that I am DMing, I don't enforce any implied racial hatreds on the two players. That's up to them to decide through play. If a half orc walks into a dwarven city, sure, he's gonna have a tough time, until such a time as he can somehow prove himself to the dwarves. But in a player character party of mixed classes and races, those sorts of things are best left to the players to decide. [/QUOTE]
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